Fake "Defence Of" Campaign Medal Documents.

Nota Bene · 03-18-2003, 06:57 PM

Gentlemen,

Here's a fake temporary document for a Stalingrad medal. The document itself is genuine, but entries are fresh and made in modern hand writting.

Alexei

otlichnik · 03-20-2003, 04:59 AM

The faint, multi-digit stamped serial number is the same as that seen on many fake NKVD IDs. Also note the general NKO stamp. Any doc like this is likely to have a specific unit or city voenkom stamp not the NKO stamp.

Shawn

Nota Bene · 03-20-2003, 05:07 PM

Shawn,

Good point. They could very well be from the same shop.

Alexei

Nota Bene · 03-20-2003, 05:10 PM

Here are couple of those numbers from fake NKVD documents:

marc- · 01-29-2005, 04:27 PM

Two suspected Award cards

What thinks you, these two cards have been tipped in place written. fakes?
Someone has thought another one leaves knowing.
Give my also what explanation.

Marc

DutchBoy · 01-29-2005, 05:19 PM

First of all, it is very interesting that they are named "Duplicate" on the top right page.

One way to tell if they are real or copies is to check the front cover. If you can read the writing on the ribbons in the Soviet coat of arms, then it is most likely real. Copies usually blur the letters so much that you can't read them.

Hope this helps...

marc- · 01-29-2005, 08:16 PM

It helps certainly,

Here are Soviet coat of arms
What you thinks

Nota Bene · 01-29-2005, 08:49 PM

Marc,

I believe that documents are genuine, but entries are not. I have already seen a bunch of documents with the same Nechiporenko signature and "Duplicate".

Alexei

marc- · 01-29-2005, 09:35 PM

The tipped cards are no identification for a copy, I assume
the word rejoinder stands at the top I thinks

Thanks

dannybou · 02-09-2005, 11:05 AM

I suspect this document is like the others I have been seeing lately. The document itself is genuine, the information in it isn't. Same signature that I've been seeing. Am I right?

01-29-2005, 05:19 PM	#6
DutchBoy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 51 Posts: 153	First of all, it is very interesting that they are named "Duplicate" on the top right page. One way to tell if they are real or copies is to check the front cover. If you can read the writing on the ribbons in the Soviet coat of arms, then it is most likely real. Copies usually blur the letters so much that you can't read them. Hope this helps... __________________ Matthijs P.

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03-20-2003, 04:59 AM	#2
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	The faint, multi-digit stamped serial number is the same as that seen on many fake NKVD IDs. Also note the general NKO stamp. Any doc like this is likely to have a specific unit or city voenkom stamp not the NKO stamp. Shawn

03-20-2003, 05:07 PM	#3
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Shawn, Good point. They could very well be from the same shop. Alexei

01-29-2005, 08:49 PM	#8
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Marc, I believe that documents are genuine, but entries are not. I have already seen a bunch of documents with the same Nechiporenko signature and "Duplicate". Alexei

01-29-2005, 09:35 PM	#9
marc- Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 51	The tipped cards are no identification for a copy, I assume the word rejoinder stands at the top I thinks Thanks

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