Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic

DougD · 06-18-2008, 02:55 PM

This is an odd M1943...material and lining, not to mention the very strange (unique?) boards...1945-46 German made? Maybe. Fake? Maybe (though I do not think so). Made for theater? Possible, but very tough to tell and I do not see a theater inventory stamp ( though the photos are not great). Each of us can draw our own conclusions!

DougD

Ser-g · 06-18-2008, 03:24 PM

wierd yah !

but very butifull if you ask me.

i'm not really known with this stuff but i find it more butifull than the stock stuff.

kind regards ser-g

DougD · 06-18-2008, 03:38 PM

hi serg,

glad you are enjoying the forum!

i agree, i like odd or unusual items as well,
even though there are those out there that claim that all things that do not fully conform to regulations are 'fake' ! Still not sure how I feel about this tunic though...

DougD

Ser-g · 06-18-2008, 03:55 PM

well i know from my service time in the royal dutch army,
that uniforms are great they only have one big drawback, they do so look a like.
i there for did some minor confersions.
When i got promoted to sergeant i did some bigger stuff that i could pull off than.

so i guess there were some people gambling with there lives in the russian army that did the same.

i just love the things to be a little wierd or just not regulair, ant that doesnt make it fake at all to me.
especialy in the soviet because there building and constructing standarts were more of the order, why use any thing you have to order if we already have this leing around.

Jeffrey Meffert · 06-18-2008, 04:04 PM

The piping just doesn't look right on the epaulets. On the other hand, custom bullion embroidered boards might be custom from the ground up. I'm sure there's a story in there somewhere.

Tretov · 06-18-2008, 04:06 PM

I would believe in theatre, but it is hard to tell from the pictures only. I dont think it is a fake, the embroidered shoulderboards must be much harder to make than just putting a metal star and artillery insignias there.

Is there wear/dirt around the collar on the middle pic?

DougD · 06-18-2008, 05:16 PM

Not sure about wear, not mine...i agree about the boards piping though, its 'off'...looks orange.

DougD

Esteban_cool · 06-18-2008, 09:31 PM

well, I have seen embroidered stars on shoulderboards in M45 naval inbfantry uniforms and also separate shoulderboards for army. but IÂ´ve never seen these orange piping ones!
my guess itÂ´s private tailored in one of the occupied countries after WWII

Lapa · 06-19-2008, 03:00 AM

Guys,

Let's not forget that the rendering of colors in pictures - especially digital - can vary widely, and that there were also color variations in production.

That being said, I think that these boards may have been restored, which would explain why the piping is much wider than usual. I have seen wartime embroidered stars, usually for higher ranks, although these are definitely rare.

Marc

Nack · 06-19-2008, 09:31 AM

Yeah -- wierd indeed. Something you probably need to see in-hand to see if it feels right.

Maybe a stupid question -- but does it have any tailor labels, etc. inside?

06-18-2008, 03:24 PM	#2
Ser-g Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Haarlem The Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 374	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic wierd yah ! but very butifull if you ask me. i'm not really known with this stuff but i find it more butifull than the stock stuff. kind regards ser-g

06-18-2008, 03:38 PM	#3
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic hi serg, glad you are enjoying the forum! i agree, i like odd or unusual items as well, even though there are those out there that claim that all things that do not fully conform to regulations are 'fake' ! Still not sure how I feel about this tunic though... DougD

06-18-2008, 03:55 PM	#4
Ser-g Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Haarlem The Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 374	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic well i know from my service time in the royal dutch army, that uniforms are great they only have one big drawback, they do so look a like. i there for did some minor confersions. When i got promoted to sergeant i did some bigger stuff that i could pull off than. so i guess there were some people gambling with there lives in the russian army that did the same. i just love the things to be a little wierd or just not regulair, ant that doesnt make it fake at all to me. especialy in the soviet because there building and constructing standarts were more of the order, why use any thing you have to order if we already have this leing around.

06-18-2008, 04:04 PM	#5
Jeffrey Meffert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 68 Posts: 640	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic The piping just doesn't look right on the epaulets. On the other hand, custom bullion embroidered boards might be custom from the ground up. I'm sure there's a story in there somewhere.

06-18-2008, 04:06 PM	#6
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic I would believe in theatre, but it is hard to tell from the pictures only. I dont think it is a fake, the embroidered shoulderboards must be much harder to make than just putting a metal star and artillery insignias there. Is there wear/dirt around the collar on the middle pic? Last edited by Tretov; 06-18-2008 at 04:08 PM.

06-18-2008, 05:16 PM	#7
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic Not sure about wear, not mine...i agree about the boards piping though, its 'off'...looks orange. DougD

06-18-2008, 09:31 PM	#8
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic well, I have seen embroidered stars on shoulderboards in M45 naval inbfantry uniforms and also separate shoulderboards for army. but IÂ´ve never seen these orange piping ones! my guess itÂ´s private tailored in one of the occupied countries after WWII __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

06-19-2008, 03:00 AM	#9
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic Guys, Let's not forget that the rendering of colors in pictures - especially digital - can vary widely, and that there were also color variations in production. That being said, I think that these boards may have been restored, which would explain why the piping is much wider than usual. I have seen wartime embroidered stars, usually for higher ranks, although these are definitely rare. Marc

06-19-2008, 09:31 AM	#10
Nack Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Buckeye State Age: 46 Posts: 513	Re: Unusual M1943 Major's Tunic Yeah -- wierd indeed. Something you probably need to see in-hand to see if it feels right. Maybe a stupid question -- but does it have any tailor labels, etc. inside?

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