Matveev, Nikolaj Konstantinovich, Junior Radio Technician, 930th Artillery Regiment

Jumpmaster · 01-16-2017, 10:23 AM

I've always been fascinated in my Soviet collecting with mounted bars particularly containing orders. I've recently acquired this group which caught my eye for the bars and the photo. I've yet to research it as it's just arrived.

There are also the award cards for all the service and commemorative medals that I haven't photographed yet.

Jumpmaster · 01-16-2017, 10:41 AM

Lastly the veteran's photo.

***desantnik*** · 01-16-2017, 10:48 AM

Have you had the set researched?

I don't want to spoil your delight, but I'm concerned about the three long service award booklet (CSM, RS, RB).

Since the booklet is dated 1956, one would consider that all three entries were written at the same time. For example, if the book started in 1953 and thus dated, why the later entries? Also, if the awards were all for long service, the edict dates should be off-set by approximately 4-6 years for each, i.e. 1944-1949-1954. Finally, if the entries were all made in 1956, then why are the entries done in different handwriting and inks? It's possible the booklet was originally undated then "completed" in 1956, but it's worth looking into.

Good news is his two WWII awards should be good. They both are in podvignaroda and fall within 3 Belorussian Front number blocks so their probability of being thrown together and added in an altered book by a forger is less.

Bill Garvy · 01-16-2017, 11:18 AM

Nikolai Konstantinovich Matveev, born 1923, Junior Regimental Radio Technician, 371st "Vitevskiy" Red Banner Order of Suvorov Rifle Division, 3rd Belorussian Front, awarded Order of the Red Star, #1050857, November 18th, 1944. Awarded Order of the Patriotic War, 2nd Class, #575866, April 26, 1945, 65th "Kovno" Rifle Corps, 5th Army, 3rd Belorussian Front, as Radio Technician, 930th Artillery Regiment. Was also awarded an Order of the Patriotic War, 2nd Class, 1985 Jubilee issue.

Bill Garvy · 01-16-2017, 11:20 AM

Prikaz (Award List) for his Order of the Red Star

Bill Garvy · 01-16-2017, 11:21 AM

Citation for his Order of the Red Star

Bill Garvy · 01-16-2017, 11:23 AM

Prikaz for his Order of the Patriotic War, 2nd Class

Jumpmaster · 01-16-2017, 11:25 AM

WOW
Gentleman I'm unspeakably grateful for your input and information. I just received the group so had not initiated any research requests, therefore I appreciate all the info and observations. I really liked the group more for the bars and photo but all the other items are grand as a whole.
Best
Anthony

Bill Garvy · 01-16-2017, 11:26 AM

Finally, his citation for his Order of the Patriotic War, 2nd Class

***CtahhR*** · 01-16-2017, 11:29 AM

The Medal "For Combat Merits" and Orders Red Banner and Red Star are for long service so the citations aren't available without a paid researcher (like myself).

Not a bad group at all.

01-16-2017, 11:25 AM	#8
Jumpmaster New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Buffalo, NY Age: 56 Posts: 15	Re: Matveev, Nikolaj Konstantinovich, Junior Radio Technician, 930th Artillery Regime WOW Gentleman I'm unspeakably grateful for your input and information. I just received the group so had not initiated any research requests, therefore I appreciate all the info and observations. I really liked the group more for the bars and photo but all the other items are grand as a whole. Best Anthony

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01-16-2017, 10:48 AM	#3
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,339	Have you had the set researched? I don't want to spoil your delight, but I'm concerned about the three long service award booklet (CSM, RS, RB). Since the booklet is dated 1956, one would consider that all three entries were written at the same time. For example, if the book started in 1953 and thus dated, why the later entries? Also, if the awards were all for long service, the edict dates should be off-set by approximately 4-6 years for each, i.e. 1944-1949-1954. Finally, if the entries were all made in 1956, then why are the entries done in different handwriting and inks? It's possible the booklet was originally undated then "completed" in 1956, but it's worth looking into. Good news is his two WWII awards should be good. They both are in podvignaroda and fall within 3 Belorussian Front number blocks so their probability of being thrown together and added in an altered book by a forger is less.

01-16-2017, 11:29 AM	#10
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Matveev, Nikolaj Konstantinovich, Junior Radio Technician, 930th Artillery Regime The Medal "For Combat Merits" and Orders Red Banner and Red Star are for long service so the citations aren't available without a paid researcher (like myself). Not a bad group at all. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

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