The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum  
  • Serial Numbers Database 2.0
Enter Here

vBClassified Featured Listings
Echoes of War

Go Back   The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum > Soviet Awards Forums > Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics > Soviet Uniforms, Hats And Insignia > Army Uniforms And Insignia

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-08-2004, 11:39 AM   #1
DougD
Senior Member
 
DougD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
Age: 50
Posts: 2,060
I am still waiting for the hat and breeches, but the tunic arrived so I thought I'd post it. Its a rare M1943 parade generals tunic, for a named General of the Army. The name and set will be in the Schiffer book next year, so I only get to hold on to it for a week or so : (

The M1943 parade uniforms were worn after the M1940 generals parade uniform and yet was replaced in 1945 by the M1945 Victory Parade generals uniform.

Like the officers M1943 parade uniforms, generals had cuff spools, rather than cuff leaf embroidery.

General of the Army, the last rank before becoming a Marshal of the USSR.

the cuff spools, later replaced by leaf embroidery on the M1945.

DougD
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4starm43.jpg (40.9 KB, 103 views)
File Type: jpg 4starbd.jpg (45.8 KB, 82 views)
File Type: jpg 4starcuff.jpg (49.0 KB, 80 views)

Last edited by CtahhR; 04-15-2014 at 05:14 PM.
DougD is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-08-2004, 11:46 AM   #2
DougD
Senior Member
 
DougD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
Age: 50
Posts: 2,060
cap

though not his, this is the type of cap that will go with the tunic.

DougD
Attached Images
File Type: jpg M1943cap.jpg (34.2 KB, 84 views)
DougD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2004, 11:48 AM   #3
DougD
Senior Member
 
DougD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
Age: 50
Posts: 2,060
engineer M1943

Just to compare, this M1943 major general of engineers is complete.

DougD
Attached Images
File Type: jpg M1943Engin.jpg (24.5 KB, 90 views)
DougD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2004, 11:50 AM   #4
DougD
Senior Member
 
DougD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
Age: 50
Posts: 2,060
copy

For theatre and film use outright fakes were made of this uniform. Here is a copy of an infantry general M1943 parade uniform; the belt is real, I only added it for the photo.

DougD
Attached Images
File Type: jpg M43copy.jpg (14.4 KB, 91 views)
DougD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2004, 11:59 AM   #5
DougD
Senior Member
 
DougD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
Age: 50
Posts: 2,060
with medals

There were order holes showing the use of pre-43 orders on this M1943 parade tunic; tried to be accurate.

DougD
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4star.jpg (45.2 KB, 73 views)
DougD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2004, 02:08 PM   #6
vvadim
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 197
Doug,

When portraying such a high rank uniform it’s desirable to put combination of awards that ever existed for person with such rank, and since only few were promoted to the rank of General of the Army in 1940 – 1945 it’s not so difficult.

Parade tunic like this was in use since January(actually March) of 1943 till April(June) of 1945. Some generals continue to wear such uniforms until late 1946, but not a person with such high rank. So people who received title of Hero of Soviet Union after may 1945 would not fit, or you have to remove the gold star.

And please remove guard’s badge. General of the army can not wear guard’s badge, because Soviet union has no Guard’s fronts. General-cornels, not higher. Only two Marshals of Armor troops who were in command of Guard’s Tank’s Armies (Rotmistrov 5th Guard’s Army and Bogdanov 2nd Guards Army) were wearing Guard’s badges.

Most suitable candidate would be, not with type of awards you are portraying, but still (I’ve skipped all the awards after 1945).

<b>Maslennikov Ivan Ivanovitch</b> – commander of 3rd Pribaltiyskiy front, General of the Army on August 28 1944. Hero of Soviet Union May 8 1945.
Order of Lenin 1942 and 1943, Red Banner 1935, 1942 and 1944, Red Star 1940.
Suvorov 1 class 1943, Kutuzov 1 class 1943 and 1944.

Rest of the people promoted to such rank are not fitting to combination of awards you are trying to portrait.

<b>Bagramian Ivan Khristoforovich</b> - General of the Army on November 17, 1943 Hero of Soviet Union July 29, 1944. Order of Lenin 1944 and 1945 (Can not be screwback), Red Banner 1941, 1944, Suvorov 1 class 1943 and 1945, Kutuzov 1 class 1943.

<b>Eremenko Andrey Ivanovich</b> – General of the Army on August 28 1943. Hero of Soviet Union July 29 1944. Order of Lenin 1938 and 1944, Red Banner 1926, 1941 and 1944, Suvorov 1 class 1943, 1944 and 1945, Kutuzov 1 class 1943.

<b>Tulenev Ivan Vladimirovich</b> - General of the Army on June 04, 1940 Hero of Soviet Union February 21, 1978

<b>Petrov Ivan Efimovitch</b> – General of the Army on October 9 1943, Hero of Soviet Union May 29 1945.

<b>Popov Markian Mikhailovich</b> – General of the Army on August 26 1943 Hero of Soviet Union May 7 1965

<b>Vatutin Nikolay Fedorovich</b> – General of the Army on February 12, 1943. Died from his wounds on April 15 1944. Postmortems Hero of Soviet Union in 1945.

<b>Zakharov Matvey Vasilievich</b> – General of the Army on May 29, 1945 Hero of Soviet Union August 8 1945.

<b>Sokolovskiy Vasiliy Danilovich</b> – General of the Army on August 27, 1943. Hero of Soviet Union May 29 1945. Order of Lenin 1941 and 1942, Red Banner 1928 and 1944, Suvorov 1 class 1943, 1943 and 1945, Kutuzov 1 class 1943, 1944 and 1956.

<b>Cherniakhovskiy Ivan Danilovich</b> – General of the Army on June 26, 1944. Killed in action on February 18 1945. Two times Hero of Soviet Union 1943 and 1944.

<b>Malinovskiy Radion Yakovlevich</b> – General of the Army on April 28 1944, Marshal of Soviet Union September 10, 1944. Hero of Soviet Union May 8 1945

<b>Govorov Leonid Aleksandrovich</b> - General of the Army on November 17, 1943 Marshal of Soviet Union June 18, 1944. Hero of Soviet Union January 1, 1945

<b>Meretskov Kirill Afanasevich</b> – General of the Army on June 4, 1940, Marshal of Soviet Union October 10, 1944. Hero of Soviet Union March 21, 1940. Order of Lenin 1944 and 1945, Red Banner 1928, 1938 and 1944, Suvorov 1 class 1943 and 1945, Kutuzov 1 class 1944.

<b>Konev Ivan Stepanovich</b> - General of the Army on August 26, 1943, Marshal of Soviet Union February 20, 1944. Hero of Soviet Union August 29, 1944. Order of Lenin 1944 and 1945, Red Banner 1938 and 1944, Red Star 1936. Suvorov 1 class 1943 and 1944, Kutuzov 1 class April 1943 and July 1943.

<b>Rokosovskiy Konstantin Konstantinovich</b> – General of the Army on April 4 1943, Marshal of Soviet Union June 29, 1944. Hero of Soviet Union July 29, 1944.

<b>Apanasenko Iosiph Radionovich</b> – General of the Army on 22 February 1941. Killed in action on August 5 1943. Never was a Hero of Soviet Union

<b>Antonov Aleksey Inokentievich</b> – General of the Army on August 27 1943 Never was a Hero of Soviet Union.

<b>Khrulev Andrey Vasilievich</b> – General of the Army on November 7 1943. Never was a Hero of Soviet Union

<b>Zakharov Georgiy Fedorovich</b> – General of the Army on July 28, 1944. Never was a Hero of Soviet Union

<b>Purkaev Maxim Alekseevich</b> – General of the Army on October 26, 1944 Never was a Hero of Soviet Union.

<b>Bulganin Nikolay Aleksandrovich</b> – General of the Army on November 18, 1944. Never was a Hero of Soviet Union. Hero of Socialist Labor in 1955.

vv
vvadim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2004, 02:50 PM   #7
DougD
Senior Member
 
DougD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
Age: 50
Posts: 2,060
decorating

thank you for your opinion. As the uniform does not belong to you, please do not concern youreslf with how it is decorated. It is up to the owner of the uniform ( that is the buyer, not the old general) to decide how to decorate it. None of the holes were created, and since the id was not known, the client simply decorated it. I think it is better to decorate it rather than use say photo shop to create what is not there.

Thank you again,
DougD
DougD is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
M1943 Tank Generals Parade cap DougD Soviet Uniforms, Hats And Insignia 13 09-07-2008 12:52 PM
M1943 Red Army Captain DougD Sold Soviet Uniform Miscellanea Archive 0 03-01-2008 12:14 PM
M1943 Parade Colonel DougD Sold Soviet Uniform Miscellanea Archive 0 01-13-2008 04:47 PM
M1943 Field General DougD Army Uniforms And Insignia 5 04-26-2007 07:58 AM


WW1 German  Butcher Blade Bayonet picture

WW1 German Butcher Blade Bayonet

$250.00



German Bastard Full Tang Tempered Battle Ready Handmade Sword *SHARP EDGE BLADE* picture

German Bastard Full Tang Tempered Battle Ready Handmade Sword *SHARP EDGE BLADE*

$199.99



US PILOTS SURVIVAL KNIFE picture

US PILOTS SURVIVAL KNIFE

$35.00



NICE WW2 JAPANESE SWORD BLADE FOR REMOUNT picture

NICE WW2 JAPANESE SWORD BLADE FOR REMOUNT

$375.00



Cattaragus 225q WW2 Fixed Blade Knife picture

Cattaragus 225q WW2 Fixed Blade Knife

$64.99



Imperial US M7 Fixed Blade Knife Bayonet USM8A1 Scabbard picture

Imperial US M7 Fixed Blade Knife Bayonet USM8A1 Scabbard

$63.00



WW2 Japanese Officers Sword Type 94 Family Blade Rare Family Mon Pin Kabuto-gane picture

WW2 Japanese Officers Sword Type 94 Family Blade Rare Family Mon Pin Kabuto-gane

$1900.00



Israeli Defense Forces IDF Israel Flag 3-in-1 Military Tactical Rescue knife too picture

Israeli Defense Forces IDF Israel Flag 3-in-1 Military Tactical Rescue knife too

$25.99



 WW US  Army  Butcher Knife robinson 1951 12 in blade  picture

WW US Army Butcher Knife robinson 1951 12 in blade

$179.00



German Bastard Full Tang Tempered Battle Ready Handmade Sword *SHARP EDGE BLADE* picture

German Bastard Full Tang Tempered Battle Ready Handmade Sword *SHARP EDGE BLADE*

$199.99




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2011 Arthur G. Bates III