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Old 09-07-2004, 01:37 PM   #1
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FAKE Red Guards Fighter and Red Partisan

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Seems like the Fakers are getting better and better!
This is a new breed of fakes that is slowly sweeping the marketplace.
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Old 09-07-2004, 01:39 PM   #2
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Old 09-08-2004, 10:41 AM   #3
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A couple of months ago, in St Petersburg, I was offered such a variety of scarce and rare badges that you really have to wonder how likely it is that 3 or 4 different "collectors" have the same 1920's or 1930's badge, usually in good shape, quite detailed, patinated and with very nice enamel, and costing hundreds of $$$. Of course, each seller is ready to swear on the head of every single member of his family that his badge is genuine.
I am afraid that we have to really wake up to the fact that potentially NOTHING is not faked today (sorry about the double negative here). It has become a fully fledged industry in the FSU that is prospering on (totally or partially) gullible westerners.

Marc

PS: when I say that nothing is not fake, that goes also for cloth items; I got an inside look at "uniform restoration" as the perpetrators pudically call it, and short of the very latest types, EVERYTHING is potentially faked, INCLUDING M55 uniforms.
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Old 09-08-2004, 10:59 AM   #4
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Marc,

Do you know which badges those were?

This particular piece is excellent but I'm told that there are still minor differences which can be spotted. Unfortunately I have never seen a real one of this badge and wouldn't even know where to begin.

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Old 09-08-2004, 05:36 PM   #5
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Rusty,

There were simply too many different ones to remember. One that stuck in my mind though is the NKVD Excellent Driver. There are two variations, and in one day, I was offered exactly 4 of the second variation and 3 of the first one, all "genuine", of course, nicely patinated, with perfect enamel. Now, what are the odds of that happening? :)

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Old 09-08-2004, 07:25 PM   #6
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Guys,

Seems like the Fakers are getting better and better!
This is a new breed of fakes that is slowly sweeping the marketplace.
Very well-made fake!

This for sure will fool many collectors... :rant:

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Old 02-12-2006, 06:28 PM   #7
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On eBay right now.
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Old 02-16-2006, 07:35 PM   #8
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Guys,

These are great fakes indeed, but if you look closer you will see that some details, like for instance letters on the banner, are quite crude. BTW, I have never seen an original Red Partisan with intact enamel.

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