Fake Order And Medal Booklets - Page 6

Dave · 02-10-2004, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nota Bene

Dave,

Do you think he really bought them as genuine items? I find that hard to believe - a person spending that much $$$ should at least know something about what he is bying.

Alexei

Alexei-

Apparently so! I don't know why he bought what he did. He apparently bought them all for his own collection, and has since decided to sell one or two pieces. After learning that what he was offering was fake, he took pictures of everything, and it turned out that nearly everything was bad!

--Dave

charlet · 02-10-2004, 03:58 PM

well, this poor guy fed the too known legend of the as wealthy as naive occidental tourist...

Dave · 03-22-2004, 10:05 PM

And yet another fake document, for sale on our favorite auction site...

Not only is the document fake, but the Gold Star with the auction belonged to Vasili Semyonovich Kovtun, NOT Ivan Mitrofanovich Zorin, who was awarded Gold Star number 5380!

--Dave

yolkin · 03-23-2004, 08:52 AM

Dave, please let the seller know... He may have been duped himself, as I do not recognize his name as a Soviet awards seller on E!.

Thanks,

Eric

HuliganRS · 03-23-2004, 09:48 AM

Actually I have seen this seller sell a few Soviet things but nothing really expensive. The price is a steal @ $4,495. You are better of visiting any major dealer and getting a way more for your buck!

Rusty.

Nota Bene · 03-23-2004, 09:10 PM

Guys,

Note that the stamp is also a fake.

Alexei

Lapa · 03-24-2004, 06:41 PM

Guys,

And what about the hard folder that comes with it? It's to die laughing about; It says 'Грамота' of all things!

Marc

Nota Bene · 03-25-2004, 08:32 PM

Marc,

I think the large folder is genuine. BTW, what do you guys think about the HSU suspension?

Alexei

Lapa · 03-26-2004, 05:54 AM

Alexei,

What exactly do you mean by "genuine"?

I agree that this large folder was produced in the USSR for presentation of some Honor Diploma, but do you mean that a large HSU document was originally given to the receipient in this type of folder without the mention "Герою Советского Союза"?

Regarding the suspension, I personally find it too sharp, too "new", with basically no apparent wear in the suspension hole, despite the weight of the hanging gold star. Otherwise, it looks pretty nice to my less educated eyes ;)

Marc

Nota Bene · 03-27-2004, 06:34 PM

Lapa,

I haven't seen the cover of the folder, I was refering to the entries only.

Alexei

02-10-2004, 03:58 PM	#52
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	well, this poor guy fed the too known legend of the as wealthy as naive occidental tourist... __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

03-23-2004, 08:52 AM	#54
yolkin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 46 Posts: 206	Dave, please let the seller know... He may have been duped himself, as I do not recognize his name as a Soviet awards seller on E!. Thanks, Eric __________________ Soviet Union is the only country with an unpredictable ... past!

03-23-2004, 09:48 AM	#55
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Actually I have seen this seller sell a few Soviet things but nothing really expensive. The price is a steal @ $4,495. You are better of visiting any major dealer and getting a way more for your buck! Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

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03-23-2004, 09:10 PM	#56
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Guys, Note that the stamp is also a fake. Alexei

03-24-2004, 06:41 PM	#57
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Guys, And what about the hard folder that comes with it? It's to die laughing about; It says 'Грамота' of all things! Marc

03-25-2004, 08:32 PM	#58
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Marc, I think the large folder is genuine. BTW, what do you guys think about the HSU suspension? Alexei

03-26-2004, 05:54 AM	#59
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Alexei, What exactly do you mean by "genuine"? I agree that this large folder was produced in the USSR for presentation of some Honor Diploma, but do you mean that a large HSU document was originally given to the receipient in this type of folder without the mention "Герою Советского Союза"? Regarding the suspension, I personally find it too sharp, too "new", with basically no apparent wear in the suspension hole, despite the weight of the hanging gold star. Otherwise, it looks pretty nice to my less educated eyes ;) Marc

03-27-2004, 06:34 PM	#60
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Lapa, I haven't seen the cover of the folder, I was refering to the entries only. Alexei

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