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Old 02-18-2008, 05:35 AM   #1
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Hi Guys,

Anyone know anything further about these Russian made 1941 German EKI's, which apparently had the inscription:

"FUR RAUB
AU
MORD"

(For Robbery and Murder)

I know a few were 'issued'/used, but does anyone know anything else, or where I could obtain a replica???

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:50 AM   #2
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Date on reverse

Does the date 1813 have something to do with the "motto".

This date was in the Napoleonic war e.g.

August 23: Battle of Grossbeeren - Prussians under Von Bulow repulse French

October 16: Battle of Leipzig (Napoleon vs Prussia, Austria and Russia).


What 1813 has to do with 1941 though is not clear. Perhaps both as dates of bloody invasions/battles?

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Does the date 1813 have something to do with the "motto".

This date was in the Napoleonic war e.g.

August 23: Battle of Grossbeeren - Prussians under Von Bulow repulse French

October 16: Battle of Leipzig (Napoleon vs Prussia, Austria and Russia).


What 1813 has to do with 1941 though is not clear. Perhaps both as dates of bloody invasions/battles?

Simon
1813 is the date on the back most Iron crosses (barring EKI's), it is to with the the Franco Prussian war I beleive, the date 1941 (which on an authentic EK should be 1939) is to do with the invasion of Russia, apparently this piece was made/used by Russia as anti-german propaganda???

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On the 10th march 1813 the first Iron cross was founded by the King of Prussia Friedrich Wilhelm III.

The other foundation dates are: 1870, 1914 und 1939.

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Re: Soviet 1941 'issue' Propaganda EKI's??

There was a similar propaganda Iron Cross 2nd Class made by the British during the First World War. They had listed upon them battles in which the Germans had lost. They were thrown into German trenches to demoralise the enemy. These later crosses will have served the same purpose.
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