Dubious Ribbon Bar?

Koba64 · 05-14-2010, 06:14 AM

NewRibbonbar.jpg

This one seems to me to be very odd, more than just an incorrectly assembled ribbon bar.

I've not photographed it yet but the construction is actually very nicely backed felt. If it did prove to be a fantasy I'd be quite happy as it fits in with my photographic project and academic article very nicely.

Would anyone be able to suggest their concerns or issues please?

Cheers.

Tretov · 05-14-2010, 07:04 AM

All fake and made up. Not only are they in the wrong order and mandatory awards are missing, but the combination of awards is also highly unlikely, not to mention impossible. Don't waste your money nor ruin your project with crap like this :thumbsdown

Greg Collins · 05-14-2010, 07:43 AM

The first thing I noticed about this bar was that, for it's large size, there is no "replication" of awards- in other words, I've never seen just one of each award on a bar this size. And that was just the first thing that threw me off. I agree with Tretov- don't bother with this one.

***desantnik*** · 05-14-2010, 09:16 AM

Although I rarely say "never", the depicted award combination is extremely, highly unlikely.

Esteban_cool · 05-14-2010, 01:37 PM

And why, if the alleged owner, allegedly awarded the XX RKKA medal, it skips all the other ones till the 50th ann. one? That´s the first weird thing I noticed.

Finally, the campaign awards combo just made me laugh. Maybe it was possible, but for a guy with those orders awarded? I doubt it. I´d expect at least one Red Star and a OGPW.

Tretov · 05-14-2010, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esteban_cool

And why, if the alleged owner, allegedly awarded the XX RKKA medal, it skips all the other ones till the 50th ann. one? That´s the first weird thing I noticed.

Finally, the campaign awards combo just made me laugh. Maybe it was possible, but for a guy with those orders awarded? I doubt it. I´d expect at least one Red Star and a OGPW.

If awarded the XX RKKA, why would he then have received the 10 and 15, even 20 years of service awards (and yet be abscent in 1948 when the XXX SA&N was issued)? And if he got the RKKA award, which more or less required service as early as civil war or at least the years after, how could he get the Personal Courage award in 1989? No way this is a good bar.

Esteban_cool · 05-14-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tretov

If awarded the XX RKKA, why would he then have received the 10 and 15, even 20 years of service awards (and yet be abscent in 1948 when the XXX SA&N was issued)? And if he got the RKKA award, which more or less required service as early as civil war or at least the years after, how could he get the Personal Courage award in 1989? No way this is a good bar.

Tretov,
Why do you have to be you, goddamn it!? :D

IMHO this ribbon bar isn´t half bad... to have a Red Alert 3 character wear it!

EricFG · 05-14-2010, 04:21 PM

Completely bogus. Not even worth figuring out what the foreign awards might be.
If it were on a metal rack I'd consider making something realistic out of the parts.

Koba64 · 05-14-2010, 04:50 PM

Thank you ever so much gentlemen for the information, I'm so pleased that I am able to read them correctly and my instincts are firing on all cylinders :D
It's the sort of bar I'd started to make up to tell a weird and wonderful story when I conceived of my project, it's a shame that folk are actually passing off goods like these as genuine..

Bless you all for your advice :thumbsup

ps. This one I bought a few weeks ago, I particularly liked the bravery in fire.

Tiny Sized new.jpg

05-14-2010, 06:14 AM	#1
Koba64 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern England (Daarzet) Age: 59 Posts: 36	Dubious Ribbon Bar? NewRibbonbar.jpg This one seems to me to be very odd, more than just an incorrectly assembled ribbon bar. I've not photographed it yet but the construction is actually very nicely backed felt. If it did prove to be a fantasy I'd be quite happy as it fits in with my photographic project and academic article very nicely. Would anyone be able to suggest their concerns or issues please? Cheers. __________________ May the victorious banner of the great Lenin be your lodestar! For the complete destruction of the German invaders! Death to the German invaders! Long live our glorious Motherland,her liberty and her independence... Under the banner of Lenin, forward to victory! :

05-14-2010, 07:04 AM	#2
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Re: Dubious Ribbon Bar? All fake and made up. Not only are they in the wrong order and mandatory awards are missing, but the combination of awards is also highly unlikely, not to mention impossible. Don't waste your money nor ruin your project with crap like this :thumbsdown

05-14-2010, 07:43 AM	#3
Greg Collins Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central Virginia Age: 70 Posts: 744	Re: Dubious Ribbon Bar? The first thing I noticed about this bar was that, for it's large size, there is no "replication" of awards- in other words, I've never seen just one of each award on a bar this size. And that was just the first thing that threw me off. I agree with Tretov- don't bother with this one. __________________ "We are Marching for the Victory of Communist Labour" V.I. Ulyanov (Lenin)

05-14-2010, 09:16 AM	#4
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,338	Re: Dubious Ribbon Bar? Although I rarely say "never", the depicted award combination is extremely, highly unlikely.

05-14-2010, 01:37 PM	#5
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Re: Dubious Ribbon Bar? And why, if the alleged owner, allegedly awarded the XX RKKA medal, it skips all the other ones till the 50th ann. one? That´s the first weird thing I noticed. Finally, the campaign awards combo just made me laugh. Maybe it was possible, but for a guy with those orders awarded? I doubt it. I´d expect at least one Red Star and a OGPW. __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

05-14-2010, 04:21 PM	#8
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Dubious Ribbon Bar? Completely bogus. Not even worth figuring out what the foreign awards might be. If it were on a metal rack I'd consider making something realistic out of the parts. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

05-14-2010, 04:50 PM	#9
Koba64 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern England (Daarzet) Age: 59 Posts: 36	Re: Dubious Ribbon Bar? Thank you ever so much gentlemen for the information, I'm so pleased that I am able to read them correctly and my instincts are firing on all cylinders :D It's the sort of bar I'd started to make up to tell a weird and wonderful story when I conceived of my project, it's a shame that folk are actually passing off goods like these as genuine.. Bless you all for your advice :thumbsup ps. This one I bought a few weeks ago, I particularly liked the bravery in fire. Tiny Sized new.jpg __________________ May the victorious banner of the great Lenin be your lodestar! For the complete destruction of the German invaders! Death to the German invaders! Long live our glorious Motherland,her liberty and her independence... Under the banner of Lenin, forward to victory! : Last edited by Koba64; 05-15-2010 at 03:16 AM. Reason: afterthought

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