Duplicates, just a though

ph3s · 08-22-2010, 08:56 AM

recently I start to see a lot of duplicate medals CS, Bravery on auctions and forums. And I start to think is it really difficult to make a new set of punch 2mm high. Yes I say it might be expensive, but:

Lots of abandon factories / equipment in xSU territory
Lots of good master-engravers
Finally new equipment for the the badge and decorations small and big companies.

What is gonna stop a not well paid master to create a set of punch for additional money?

bear in mind that for example in Ukraine unnumbered CS and Braveries cost $20-30. A cost of duplicate is at list x4.

Auke · 08-22-2010, 10:23 AM

Exactly, that's why I have never ever bought a "duplicate". All the experts in the world can say that a piece is legit, but in the end it is simply too easy to take an unnumbered BM / CMM and add a "D" and a serial number. If it's done well, even the best experts won't be able to detect that.

deValcourt · 08-22-2010, 12:34 PM

Or, you can do your research before you buy - and by that I mean get someone to research it for you. BMs and CSMs should be some of the easiest to hunt down with the right person hunting.

Phillip

Auke · 08-22-2010, 07:27 PM

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, you mean archival research? How is that going to say whether the duplicate is real or not?

Lapa · 09-03-2010, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph3s

...bear in mind that for example in Ukraine unnumbered CS and Braveries cost $20-30...

Actually, it would be closer to $10~12...

Marc

08-22-2010, 08:56 AM	#1
ph3s Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: £ U.c K. Posts: 189	Duplicates, just a though recently I start to see a lot of duplicate medals CS, Bravery on auctions and forums. And I start to think is it really difficult to make a new set of punch 2mm high. Yes I say it might be expensive, but: Lots of abandon factories / equipment in xSU territory Lots of good master-engravers Finally new equipment for the the badge and decorations small and big companies. What is gonna stop a not well paid master to create a set of punch for additional money? bear in mind that for example in Ukraine unnumbered CS and Braveries cost $20-30. A cost of duplicate is at list x4. __________________ whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger (c)

08-22-2010, 10:23 AM	#2
Auke Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 762	Re: Duplicates, just a though Exactly, that's why I have never ever bought a "duplicate". All the experts in the world can say that a piece is legit, but in the end it is simply too easy to take an unnumbered BM / CMM and add a "D" and a serial number. If it's done well, even the best experts won't be able to detect that.

08-22-2010, 12:34 PM	#3
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Duplicates, just a though Or, you can do your research before you buy - and by that I mean get someone to research it for you. BMs and CSMs should be some of the easiest to hunt down with the right person hunting. Phillip __________________ Phillip

08-22-2010, 07:27 PM	#4
Auke Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 762	Re: Duplicates, just a though I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, you mean archival research? How is that going to say whether the duplicate is real or not?

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