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Fake Orders of Suvorov
#11
kwambr,

Definitely bad :thumbsdown

Marc
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#12
More details
Thanks everyone,
Kwambr


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#13
Hello all,

Could you help me on Suvorov orders, what is your opinion, are they fake ones?

Thank you in advance


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#14
Both look like var2, but can second be var2 because of high order No?
also back metal structure looks different on both.

thank you ;)


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#15
ms_lt,

Both are :thumbsdown

Marc
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#16
thank you for help. Originals are too rare i guess :(
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#17
ms_lt Wrote:Originals are too rare i guess :(
They are.
The odds are that finding a real one "out of the woodwork" and/or for a cheap price are astronomically high. If you got money and want one buy from a good dealer and pay the price. If you don't have money (like me) just dream about getting one.


But by the same token do your homework as once in a blue moon a great deal will come up. If you know what you're looking for, and utilize the myriad internet resources correctly, you can become a savy collector. :cool:
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'
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#18
Hi

I think this one is a fake concerning the uneven dots on the obverse, crude serial number, straight mint mark and generally lacking detail. Thank you and with best regards,

Jens


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#19
This was bought 25 years ago in Russia, and the person who bought it did not pay a lot of money for it. To me it looks obviously fake, because I have never seen another Suvorov that looks like this one. (I've been looking for about 3 days now, so someone with a little more experience maybe has seen one that looks like this.)

Anyways, I think it's odd to find it with all these other medals that I have, since the entire collection of 40 or so pieces probably cost less than $100 to purchase in the mid-80's. These were being bought along with all sorts of other stuff, and the buyer was not discerning. So, why fake a Suvorov at all if you're just going to sell it for a few bucks on the street? Maybe it was an attempt at a fake that someone gave up on and just gave away, more or less. I have no idea.

I have dozens of other pieces to photograph, but this one I figured I'd submit now since it's a bit more interesting than the others.


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#20
hello, it is an old, crude, textbook example fake.
Sebastien
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