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I was once told by a former Begeers employee that the USSR had the company produce a batch of 30 Partisan Medals 1st Class. I don't know if they were to be awarded to Dutch "helpers" or anyone else. I was informed that the batch was not made exactly to the Soviets' specifications (and they may have stayed with Begeers in their entirety or some may have been awarded to Dutch citizens). Begeers may have also produced tiny batches of other Soviet awards intended for Dutch citizens. I have contacted Begeers on the matter and they will not confirm nor deny. It's not really a good subject to air as not only is it not the most "P.C." to have made awards for the Cold War "enemy" but also to have made them to a disappointing quality.
As for finding out about Soviet awards awarded to the people of the Netherlands shouldn't there be accounts of these with the formerly Soviet and now Russian embassy? I'm sure they'll have who what where and when somewhere in the records. Getting access to those records is a totally different game though.
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It certainly wouldn't be the first case of Soviet awards being produced outside the Soviet Union. It doesn't sound very logical but as we all know international policy and relationships very rarely are.
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Interesting - I even commented on it. Gettin' old.
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The M.D. site says on the topic of Partisan Medal 2nd Class. The same could be true of the 1st Class Medal. This somewhat falls into line with the Begeers story.
(!) По данным, полученным из различных источников, нам известно, что в послевоенные годы была изготовлена партия медалей второй степени с цельноштампованным ухом. На данный момент мы не располагаем достоверными изображениями подобных медалей. Ниже приведены изображения медали, которая, вероятно, была отпечатанная из томпака на ЛМД в 1960-70-х годах и, возможно, является "пробником" указанной партии.
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CtahhR Wrote:It certainly wouldn't be the first case of Soviet awards being produced outside the Soviet Union. It doesn't sound very logical but as we all know international policy and relationships very rarely are.
To date, there is only
ONE instance of a Soviet medal
officially being produced on behalf of the Soviet Mint, that is the Liberation of Prague medal produced by Zahradnik.
CtahhR Wrote:The M.D. site says on the topic of Partisan Medal 2nd Class. The same could be true of the 1st Class Medal. This somewhat falls into line with the Begeers story.
(!) По данным, полученным из различных источников, нам известно, что в послевоенные годы была изготовлена партия медалей второй степени с цельноштампованным ухом. На данный момент мы не располагаем достоверными изображениями подобных медалей. Ниже приведены изображения медали, которая, вероятно, была отпечатанная из томпака на ЛМД в 1960-70-х годах и, возможно, является "пробником" указанной партии.
CtahhR,
Not quite! The text you quote simply indicates that "voenkomat" type of Partisan medals were made in tombac at LMD in the 1960-70's. There is absolutely NO reference to or inference of any foreign origin for these atypical Partisan medals.
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I was mainly referring to time-scale 1960's-70's (although that is a period covering two decades). The Partisan Medal 1st Class allegedly produced by Begeers was also made of (plated) Tombac. If we can track down any of Dutch recipients of awards then it may be possible to find photographs of their awards which will be a large clue as to whether they conform to known Soviet produced types or take a different production style. If they are found to have been awarded Orders and Medals that do not fit the Soviet production types it may add weight to the story of Dutch produced "probe" items.
Begeers are the producer of the awards of the Netherlands amongst other things.
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