Red Star.

[Koba64]

Its a weird one for sure. I'm thinking that it might just be in the early number range for a long service award, which puts it at the back of the research queue I have.

[deValcourt]

Hello all,

I recently picked up a ORS S/N 3065200. It's the same type 2 as the one I bought in Moscow in 1992 which is S/N 2196074. My question/problem is that the new purchase looks barand new and the silver medallion doesn't have the same silver attributes that my other one does (e.g. the silver on my old one clearly looks like aging silver whereas with the new one, not only does it look just off the shelf, it has an almost blue and perfectly smooth shine to it). The newer one is rotating tool engraved whereas the older one was done by hand.

Can anyone take a look at these photos and help me out here, please?:D I apologize for the quality in advance.:(

Old one on left, new purchase on right. More photos to follow.

[deValcourt]

Here are the shots of the reverse. According to McDaniels, different size "ДВОР"s are expected, but also look at the placement of the mint stamp. The older one is abover the star arms and I've never seen that. Now, I'm beginning to wonder if either of these are real. But if they are, does anybody (Alexei?) no when they were issued?
Same as before: old on left, new purchase on right.
Thanks,
Phillip

[deValcourt]

A couple angle shots of the H&S (old then new on right). These are not the best photos, so I apologize in advance :o (and yes there is a chip in the enamel on the older one to the left of the H&S and is why the seller practically gave it to me with the purchace of another item :chuckle). And I can see now how the camera - even with the bad shots - picked up the dirt in all the crevices of the newer one.

Thanks again,
Phillip

[Auke]

They are both perfectly genuine. 2196074 was produced by the MZPP in September 1945 and 3065200 by the Moscow Mint around 1952. The McDaniel classification is outdated; if you use the Soviet-Screwbacks.com classification, 2196074 is a type 6, variation 6.2, and 3065200 a type 6, variation 10.2.

[Kirchgoens]

I'm with Auke. Nothin' wrong with these. That chip in the first one is pretty small. As I noted in a different posting, it might choke a purist, but we've all certainly seen far, far, far worse. The second one is surely long service.

[deValcourt]

They are both perfectly genuine. 2196074 was produced by the MZPP in September 1945 and 3065200 by the Moscow Mint around 1952. The McDaniel classification is outdated; if you use the Soviet-Screwbacks.com classification, 2196074 is a type 6, variation 6.2, and 3065200 a type 6, variation 10.2.

Man oh man. Didn't mean to stir up a nest here fellas. :D I'll just be tucking my tail between my legs :o

Really, thank you for the information. I'll have to check out the .com you mentioned. Never knew it was there. And though I'm far from a purist, I am a detail oriented person, but then none of us would be here if we weren't.:thumbsup

Thanks again,
P.

[Lapa]

Phillip,

As already mentioned, both are perfectly genuine. Just one small thing to correct, both have an engraved SN; no rotating tool involved here.

Marc

[jefflgarrison]

Or more likely dropped it on the kitchen floor in May 1965 as he was putting it on his coat for 20th anniversary. You never know with 65 years gone by...

Man, you've gotta let that go. Get on with life. Stop reliving that OPW1 you dropped on your kitchen floor!:D

[Bill Garvy]

There's no such thing as an ugly Red Star. . .