Mongolian Awards are indeed very beautifil.
Unfortunatelly the prices are increasing as for other countries Awards :(
Have you noticed the low S/N for the Screwback? #185 is probably the lowest I've ever seen! ;)
And the S/N of the Pinback is a nice one too ( #2006 = the year when I'll be 50 years old :) ) and in this case the highest S/N I've ever seen for this Order!
Best wishes and happy hunting!
Dolf
Great low serial, you know how I like that! I've got a nice 3 digit serial # order of military merit. I want to buy more before the prices go up, as you've suggested.
There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again
Esteban_cool Wrote:How much should cost one of these beauties?
More than a Lenin, that's for sure! :rolleyes:
Herfurth on his 4th edition Catalogue evaluates each one of these (Pinback as well as Screwback) at 1,600.00 EURO !...
Usually the Pinback Type is a bit cheaper than the Screwback Type, but anyway I can assure you that I didn't pay that much, for none of them ;)
Best,
Dolf
DutchBoy Wrote:I"ve seen them sell for anything between $800 and $1100.
Matt,
That's a good price for today's market prices!
If you mean $800 for the Pinback and $1100 for the Screwback!
Dolf
Esteban,
I don't mind you asking... :)
Hope you don't mind that I prefer not to answer that question... :cool:
Anyway, the prices Matt mentioned are quite accurate, if as I mention on my last post he meant the lower price for a Pinback and the higher one for a Screwback. Not that I paid that much, as I got a better deal... ;)
I just have to show off the latest addition to my collection. This is the first time I've seen a SB for real, and it's the most amazing order I've ever seen, and it's real heavy too. I had planned to buy some other orders next, but now I'm thinking I should get a screwback SB too! Serial # is 1073.:thumbsup
Congratulations, it is a nice order. One of my favorites.
DutchBoy Wrote:I just have to show off the latest addition to my collection. This is the first time I've seen a SB for real, and it's the most amazing order I've ever seen, and it's real heavy too. I had planned to buy some other orders next, but now I'm thinking I should get a screwback SB too! Serial # is 1073.:thumbsup
BTW, guys, I am cautiously optimistic about the new brass SB. So far I have examined five pieces, and to me their quality looks consistent with other Mongolian post-2004/05 awards, like the RB of Combat Valor, RB of Labor Valor, Order of Combat Valor, and Polar Star. They are obviously stamped, a little crude, sometimes have traces of hand finishing or removing some minor defects. The pinback device is identical on all the 5 orders mentioned.
Nota Bene Wrote:BTW, guys, I am cautiously optimistic about the new brass SB. So far I have examined five pieces, and to me their quality looks consistent with other Mongolian post-2004/05 awards, like the RB of Combat Valor, RB of Labor Valor, Order of Combat Valor, and Polar Star. They are obviously stamped, a little crude, sometimes have traces of hand finishing or removing some minor defects. The pinback device is identical on all the 5 orders mentioned.
Alexei
Alexei,
Right, all these new brass pieces are imho all of the same kind of manufacture.
Unfortunatelly of much lower quality than the older types :(
Hey but such is life in general I guess, despite all the so called progress ;)
Only have the document to SB 1770 awarded to S. Damdinsuren
And, here's something interesting that found its way to me... and which may also help others (assuming SB's were awarded in same order as names below).
"The Decree of the Presidium of the People’s Great Khural
of the Mongolian People’s Republic
11 November 1989 Number 180 Ulaanbaatar
On awarding some people with the orders and medals
The Presidium of the People’s Great Khural of the Mongolian People’s Republic decrees:
To award the following individuals with the orders and medals of the Mongolian People’s Republic for long, fruitful and active labor in the agricultural sector of the country.
The Order of Sukhbaatar:
1. Balbaryn Gomboragchaa Head of the “New Life” collective farm of Chuluut soum of Arhangai province
2. Sanatbain Hadan Herder of the Bayannuur farm in Bayan-Ulgii province
3. Baasandambyn Samdandorj Driver of the Harvesting machine of “Sansar” fodder preparation station in Bulgan province
4. Dendeviin Ulziihutag Herder of the “Tuya” collective farm in Dalanjargalan soum of Dornogobi province
5. Maamanhugiin Baldorj Herder of the “Jargalant” collective farm in Tsogt-Ovoo soum of Umnugobi aimag
6. Gendengiin Monhooroi General accountant of the “Sukhbaatar’s path” collective farm in Uulbayan soum of Sukhbaatar aimag
7. Samdangiin Bud Leader of the hay preparation brigade of “Salhyt” fodder preparation station of Sukhbaatar aimag
8. Gandangiin Namjildorj Director of the plant under the collective farms in Tuv aimag
9. Godnomdarjaagiin Damdinsuren Director of the “Bayantsogt” farm in Tuv aimag
10. Peljidiin Boloosh Mechanic of the “Jargalant” farm in Tuv
aimag
11. Ochiryn Dashdendev Director of the “Youth” farm in Tuv aimag
12. Khorloogiin Tsendbayar Head of Crop section of the fodder prepration station in Erdenesant soum of Tuv aimag
13. Rentsengiin Uhnaa Herder of the “Davshilt” collectiver farm in Zuunhangai soum of Uvs aimag
14. Tangadyn Dalantai Herder of the “Tsog” collective farm in Umnugobi soum of Uvs aimag
15. Luvsannyamyn Byambadorj Herder of the “Soyol” collective farm in Buyant soum of Khovd aimag
Chairman of the Presidium of People’s Great Khural (signed) J. Batmumkh
Secretary of the Presidium of People’s Great Khural (signed) Ts. Gotov"
Yes, it is (on a very limited and "fragile" basis) possible to do research... BUT, it appears that we may have all underestimated the importance of award documents vs. the actual awards due to serial numbers not easily being available in the places where research is found.
Treading gently in this area - i don't want anything to backfire... LOT's more to come (slowly but surely)
