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Badge "For Extended Service". - Tretov - 09-01-2011
medals73 Wrote:Nice!
Sadly the badge (naval) has gone astray from a submariner whose group lives with me. (Also many pictures and documents on his father and his mother's medal.)
What is the first award in the ribbon bar? Looks like a Defense of Leningrad, but then comes 250th anniversary Leningrad (it seems), but no Victory medal? Do you have the list of what awards he got?
The badge should be possible to replace.
Badge "For Extended Service". - medals73 - 09-01-2011
Tretov Wrote:What is the first award in the ribbon bar? Looks like a Defense of Leningrad, but then comes 250th anniversary Leningrad (it seems), but no Victory medal? Do you have the list of what awards he got?
The badge should be possible to replace.
A very good question. And one that has puzzled me. The ribbon bar (bad image) shown below seems to show: Defence of Leningrad, Leningrad Jubilee, Army 30, Army 40, Service 3rd Class. Nasty photo, curved plastic ribbon bar (which is not with the group). None of the other document photos show ribbons. And, of course, he wears them badly out of ofter (but as a very proud Leningrad resident - his mother also got the defence medal). Sadly, only the documents for Defence of Leningrad and the long service medal are present with the group.
Badge "For Extended Service". - EricFG - 09-12-2011
EricFG Wrote:After never having seen another badge without the loops I saw two today on eBay. Both looked kosher (considering the seller's images) and both were the older, brass and enamel variety.
Turns out one was a later-issue model and did have its loops filed off.
Got suckered on that one. :(
Badge "For Extended Service". - Tretov - 09-12-2011
medals73 Wrote:A very good question. And one that has puzzled me. The ribbon bar (bad image) shown below seems to show: Defence of Leningrad, Leningrad Jubilee, Army 30, Army 40, Service 3rd Class. Nasty photo, curved plastic ribbon bar (which is not with the group). None of the other document photos show ribbons. And, of course, he wears them badly out of ofter (but as a very proud Leningrad resident - his mother also got the defence medal). Sadly, only the documents for Defence of Leningrad and the long service medal are present with the group.
Well, in the regulations that were in force at the time, the Leningrad 250th anniversary medal goes before the Armed forces anniversary medals, so far so good. Still there should be a Victory over Germany award in between them. We have heard of catch-up awards, but it does not make sense that he should still be waiting for the Victory medal in 1958 or 1959 or whenever that photo is taken.
Badge "For Extended Service". - CtahhR - 09-12-2011
If you have the document for long service you should be able to work out roughly when they joined the forces. This person may not have been in the forces (or at least for not long enough) to be awarded the Victory Over Germany Medal. I have seen a few bars of wartime students of Leningrad who later became soldiers who have the Defence Of Leningrad Medal but no VOG as they were civilians whilst defending the city.
Badge "For Extended Service". - Tretov - 09-12-2011
CtahhR, plausible and interesting! As he have the 1948 anniversary medal, he should have been in the AF by then. As the long service awards were established in 1957, it could be that he joined in 1947 or 1948.
Badge "For Extended Service". - medals73 - 09-12-2011
As I struggle with this group, I was wondering some things like this. His father (a veteran of the Great War and Revolution -- many documents and photos -- died before WWII). His mother also got the Defense of Leningrad medal. I still need to try to work out family dynamics and dates. His long service document:
Badge "For Extended Service". - medals73 - 09-12-2011
Maybe I should just put up the whole family group?
:idea
Badge "For Extended Service". - CtahhR - 09-12-2011
Sounds like a good idea! The date on the document fits in with a post GPW sign-up.
Badge "For Extended Service". - medals73 - 09-12-2011
CtahhR Wrote:Sounds like a good idea! The date on the document fits in with a post GPW sign-up.
Shall do so, but it may require fetching home to scan (from their off-site living arrangment) the material. (And I have to admit that I feel somewhat guilty doing this, as this is one of those groups I am thinking about "moving along". This will not be an "advert"!)