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Patriotic War. - Sergei - 04-13-2012
This battered medal of mine has found a new home. Three questions:
1. Is it genuine WWII issue?
2. Do you think the hammer-cicle are original - I take it there was some repair. By the look of it, enamel is native.
3. Finally, what's the cost of the metal it's made of?
Many thanks,
Sergei
Patriotic War. - GabrielMk3 - 04-13-2012
1942 issue 2nd class OGPW is about 20-30 USD worth of metal.
Unless you get a "good" price.
Patriotic War. - desantnik - 04-13-2012
Sergei Wrote:The s/n on this one is a bit low - any explanation?
Thanks,
Sergei
I'm pretty certain this is a reissue and the piece is 100% legitimate. That serial number looks too right and not messed with.
GabrielMk3 Wrote:1942 issue 2nd class OGPW is about 20-30 USD worth of metal.
Unless you get a "good" price.
I haven't run the numbers lately, but surely there must be more scrap value than that with silver at $31 an ounce and gold at $1600.
If the hammer and sickle alone weighs 1/30 of an ounce, that's $50 right there...:confused:
Patriotic War. - EricFG - 04-13-2012
Shishkov, paraphrased by me, says about 25g of silver(.925) and about .3g of gold(.583?) in H&S alone.
Patriotic War. - CtahhR - 04-13-2012
http://soviet-awards.com/forum/soviet-military-awards/general-talk/60089-weights-soviet-orders-medals.html#post172978
24.85 grams of Silver±1.352 grams 0.325 grams of Gold ±0.0184 grams.
Silver 0.798946052 troy oz $31.61
Gold 0.0104489926 troy oz $1666.21
That means today they are worth $25.25 + $17.41 = $42.66 on average.
Patriotic War. - EricFG - 04-14-2012
You are taking into account the "purity", right? I'm sure you are. I'm to befuddled to do the math myself right now.
Patriotic War. - GabrielMk3 - 04-14-2012
I've done the purity, and checked with my local gold dealer what they'd give for that. (The chart shows how much 999. gold and silver that's in the piece)
The prices became: 86.99 NOK (15,02 USD) for 0,35 grams of 999. gold.
And 89.91 kr (15.53 USD) for 25 grams of silver.
Totalt: 30,55 USD. But that is what you get for selling the gold to a dealer, as they normally take some of the actual worth themselves.
So unless you get a "good price", or sell the metal in it's "actual" value (17,32 g + 25,31 s = 42,63), you get 25% less.
Patriotic War. - CtahhR - 04-14-2012
Purity was taken into account so the figure I put was the "true" metallic value less the screw plate.
Patriotic War. - fpicoli - 04-21-2012
Hi,
I need help on this one:
What do you think about this Order of The Great Patritic War (number #65540)
Starback variation.
Is it a original WW2 period example?
Regards
Fabio
Patriotic War. - fpicoli - 04-21-2012
Seems like a Variation 1.3.1 ('Starback', curved up mintmark at 6 o'clock,
no ray under sword's handle), according to Soviet-screwbacks.com.
I'll try to post better pics.
Here is the first one:
reverse: