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Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - Lapa - 02-12-2012
CtahhR Wrote:A Khanate Of Khiva 1873-1920 and Emirate Of Bukhara 1873-1920 section will be added to the list. Don't forget to post all your Khanate and Emirate awards there!
And, maybe, there are some in members' collections... Some people go for quantity and volume, others go for rarity and quality.
Marc
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - medals73 - 02-12-2012
Lapa Wrote:And, maybe, there are some in members' collections... Some people go for quantity and volume, others go for rarity and quality.
Marc
I have lost out in bidding on several Bukhara items, so someone must collect them.
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - CtahhR - 02-12-2012
If there is an item out there, there is a collector for it....
Any item hiding away "out of sight" isn't very useful for this forum. As much on topic information as possible needs to be aired in this public forum.
I have a vast number of items yet to be photographed and posted (as I've only got two hands) which range in rarity and "value" from unique items that have cost me 4 figures to absolutely mass produced items which are "freebies" more often than not.
As posted previously this new setup will be flexible and if something has been overlooked or new demands are presented things can be very easily changed to encompass whatever it may be. It is best to do as much planning as possible before the big change so it will need as little tweaking as possible.
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - deValcourt - 02-12-2012
In the reference books I've read, the countries outside of the Warsaw Pact were referred to bu the CIA as part of the "Soviet Sphere."
It's a broad term, but it was the official term for any country other than those who were not directly part of the Warsaw Pact but were attempting to follow the Soviet system of government such as Cuba and all the South American countries that attempted .
Phillip
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - Christophe - 02-12-2012
deValcourt Wrote:In the reference books I've read, the countries outside of the Warsaw Pact were referred to bu the CIA as part of the "Soviet Sphere."
Phillip,
I like the idea...
Ch.
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - medals73 - 02-12-2012
I hate to agree with the CIA on anything, but that phrase might just work.
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - CtahhR - 02-12-2012
Sounds good to me. We need a name for the Imperial Russian and "not yet communist" section for the Imperial Russian Sphere which doesn't work as a title as the Baltic states etc were very much post Empire.
I'm sure the word "transitional" can be used somewhere here maybe?
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - CtahhR - 02-15-2012
Here is the current line-up for the "reform".
The list is flexible and there will probably be additions to the list either before or whilst it is in place.
Many of the "less clear" sections will have an introductory thread. Some of the more popular sections will also have a thread specifically for the discussion of market prices and purchase availability of related items as not to clog up topical threads with somewhat off topic posts which can distract from the flow of threads.
Sections that remain completely empty at the end of the calendar year will be removed but can be replaced if future demand requires.
Section 1
Republics Of The Soviet Union
Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic
Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic
Bukharan People's Soviet Republic
Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic
Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic
Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic
Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic
Khorezm People's Soviet Republic
Kirghiz Soviet Socialist Republic
Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic
Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic
Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic
Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
-Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics
Tajik Soviet Socialist Republic
Transcaucasian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
Turkmen Soviet Socialist Republic
Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic
Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic
Section 2
Post Soviet States
Republic Of Abkhazia
Republic Of Armenia
Republic Of Azerbaijan
Republic Of Belarus
Republic Of Estonia
Republic Of Georgia
Republic Of Kazakhstan
Kyrgyz Republic
Republic Of Latvia
Republic Of Lithuania
Republic Of Moldova
Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic
-Orders
-Medals
-Badges
Russian Federation
-Federal Orders
--Federal Medals
-Ministerial Medals
--Ministry Of Defence
--Ministry Of Internal Affairs
--Federal Security Service
--EMERCOM
-"Umalatova" Awards
-Unofficial Awards
-Badges
Republic Of Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
Ukraine
-Orders
-Medals
Republic Of Uzbekistan
Section 3
Soviet Sphere
Democratic Republic Of Afghanistan
-Afghan Award Groups
-Afghan Titles
-Afghan Orders
-Afghan Medals
-Afghan Badges
People's Socialist Republic Of Albania
-Albanian Award Groups
-Albanian Titles
-Albanian Orders
-Albanian Medals
-Albanian Badges
People's Republic Of Angola
People's Republic Of Benin
People's Republic Of Bulgaria
-Bulgarian Award Groups
-Bulgarian Titles
-Bulgarian Orders
-Bulgarian Medals
-Bulgarian Badges
-Bulgarian Paper Items
-Bulgarian Uniforms
Socialist Republic Of The Union Of Burma
People's Republic Of China
-Chinese Award Groups
-Chinese Orders
-Chinese Medals
-Chinese Badges
Republic Of Cuba
-Cuban Titles
-Cuban Orders
-Cuban Medals
-Cuban Distinctions
-Cuban Badges
Czechoslovak Socialist Republic
-Czechoslovakian Orders
-Czechoslovakian Medals
-Czechoslovakian Badges
-Czechoslovakian Uniforms
People's Democratic Republic Of Ethiopia
German Democratic Republic
-German Award Groups
-German Titles
-German Orders
-German Medals
-German Badges
-German Paper Items
-German Uniforms
People's Republic Of Hungary
-Hungarian Titles
-Hungarian Orders
-Hungarian Medals
-Hungarian Badges
-Hungarian Uniforms
Republic Of Iraq
-Iraqi Orders
-Iraqi Medals
-Iraqi Badges
Democratic Kampuchea
Democratic People's Republic Of Korea
-Korean Titles
-Korean Orders
-Korean Medals
-Korean Badges
Lao People's Democratic Republic
Mongolian People's Republic
-Mongolian Award Groups
-Mongolian Titles
-Mongolian Orders
-Mongolian Medals
-Mongolian Badges
-Mongolian Paper Items
-Mongolian Uniforms
People's Republic Of Poland
-Polish Award Groups
-Polish Orders
-Polish Medals
-Polish Badges
Socialist Republic Of Romania
-Romanian Award Groups
-Romanian Titles
-Romanian Orders
-Romanian Medals
-Romanian Badges
-Romanian Uniforms
Spanish Republic
Tuvan People's Republic
Socialist Republic Of Vietnam
-Vietnamese Titles
-Vietnamese Orders
-Vietnamese Medals
-Vietnamese Decorations
-Vietnamese Badges
People's Democratic Republic Of Yemen
-Yemeni Orders
-Yemeni Medals
-Yemeni Badges
Socialist Federal Republic Of Yugoslavia
-Yugoslavian Award Groups
-Yugoslavian Orders
-Yugoslavian Medals
-Yugoslavian Badges
Awards And Decorations Of Socialist Parties Of Non-Communist Nations
Section 4
Imperial Russian Sphere And Resulting Nations.
Democratic Republic Of Armenia 1918-1921
Azerbaijan Democratic Republic 1918-1920
Belarusian People's Republic 1918-1919
Principality/Kingdom Of Bulgaria 1878-1944
-Bulgarian Orders
-Bulgarian Medals
-Bulgarian Badges
Republic Of Estonia 1918-1940
Democratic Republic Of Georgia 1918-1921
Republic Of Latvia 1918-1940
Republic Of Lithuania 1918-1940
Mongolia 1921-1924
Republic Of Poland 1918-1939
-Polish Orders
-Polish Medals
-Polish Badges
Russian Empire
-Russian Orders
-Russian Medals
-Russian Badges
-Russian Uniforms
White Russia 1917-
Ukrainian People's Republic 1918-1921
Section 5
Post-Communist Nations
Republic Of Albania
-Albanian Orders
-Albanian Medals
-Albanian Badges
Bosnia And Herzegovina
Republic Of Bulgaria
-Bulgarian Orders
-Bulgarian Medals
-Bulgarian Badges
Republic Of Croatia
Czech Republic
Republic Of Hungary
Republic Of Macedonia
Mongolia
-Mongolian Orders
-Mongolian Medals
-Mongolian Badges
Montenegro
Republic Of Poland
-Polish Orders
-Polish Medals
-Polish Badges
Republic Of Romania
Republic Of Serbia
Slovak Republic
Republic Of Slovenia
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - medals73 - 02-15-2012
As I have said REPEATEDLY, current Mongolia is in no meaningful way phaleristically distinct from the MPR. The same awards continue with none of the mutilation you see, for example, in Russia (poor Suvorov, getting crucified!).
Likewise, on what basis do you slice out 1921-24 Mongolia? Pre-1921, perhaps. But do we want to discuss Qing Dynasty awards or things from Taiwan here? What about the kingdoms or Iraq or Afghanistan or the awards invented by the current occupation forces?
I can recommend a few easy books on Mongolian or world history if you wish.
Reform should be made on the basis of knowledge and evidence that leads to a focused and rational improvement, not just change for the sake of mandated change, and exercise of power, and micro-manipulation.
CtahhR Wrote:Here is the current line-up for the "reform".
The list is flexible and there will probably be additions to the list either before or whilst it is in place.
Many of the "less clear" sections will have an introductory thread. Some of the more popular sections will also have a thread specifically for the discussion of market prices and purchase availability of related items as not to clog up topical threads with somewhat off topic posts which can distract from the flow of threads.
Sections that remain completely empty at the end of the calendar year will be removed but can be replaced if future demand requires.
Section 1
Republics Of The Soviet Union
Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic
Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic
Bukharan People's Soviet Republic
Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic
Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic
Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic
Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic
Khorezm People's Soviet Republic
Kirghiz Soviet Socialist Republic
Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic
Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic
Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic
Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
-Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics
Tajik Soviet Socialist Republic
Transcaucasian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
Turkmen Soviet Socialist Republic
Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic
Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic
Section 2
Post Soviet States
Republic Of Abkhazia
Republic Of Armenia
Republic Of Azerbaijan
Republic Of Belarus
Republic Of Estonia
Republic Of Georgia
Republic Of Kazakhstan
Kyrgyz Republic
Republic Of Latvia
Republic Of Lithuania
Republic Of Moldova
Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic
-Orders
-Medals
-Badges
Russian Federation
-Federal Orders
--Federal Medals
-Ministerial Medals
--Ministry Of Defence
--Ministry Of Internal Affairs
--Federal Security Service
--EMERCOM
-"Umalatova" Awards
-Unofficial Awards
-Badges
Republic Of Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
Ukraine
-Orders
-Medals
Republic Of Uzbekistan
Section 3
Soviet Sphere
Democratic Republic Of Afghanistan
-Afghan Award Groups
-Afghan Titles
-Afghan Orders
-Afghan Medals
-Afghan Badges
People's Socialist Republic Of Albania
-Albanian Award Groups
-Albanian Titles
-Albanian Orders
-Albanian Medals
-Albanian Badges
People's Republic Of Angola
People's Republic Of Benin
People's Republic Of Bulgaria
-Bulgarian Award Groups
-Bulgarian Titles
-Bulgarian Orders
-Bulgarian Medals
-Bulgarian Badges
-Bulgarian Paper Items
-Bulgarian Uniforms
Socialist Republic Of The Union Of Burma
People's Republic Of China
-Chinese Award Groups
-Chinese Orders
-Chinese Medals
-Chinese Badges
Republic Of Cuba
-Cuban Titles
-Cuban Orders
-Cuban Medals
-Cuban Distinctions
-Cuban Badges
Czechoslovak Socialist Republic
-Czechoslovakian Orders
-Czechoslovakian Medals
-Czechoslovakian Badges
-Czechoslovakian Uniforms
People's Democratic Republic Of Ethiopia
German Democratic Republic
-German Award Groups
-German Titles
-German Orders
-German Medals
-German Badges
-German Paper Items
-German Uniforms
People's Republic Of Hungary
-Hungarian Titles
-Hungarian Orders
-Hungarian Medals
-Hungarian Badges
-Hungarian Uniforms
Republic Of Iraq
-Iraqi Orders
-Iraqi Medals
-Iraqi Badges
Democratic Kampuchea
Democratic People's Republic Of Korea
-Korean Titles
-Korean Orders
-Korean Medals
-Korean Badges
Lao People's Democratic Republic
Mongolian People's Republic
-Mongolian Award Groups
-Mongolian Titles
-Mongolian Orders
-Mongolian Medals
-Mongolian Badges
-Mongolian Paper Items
-Mongolian Uniforms
People's Republic Of Poland
-Polish Award Groups
-Polish Orders
-Polish Medals
-Polish Badges
Socialist Republic Of Romania
-Romanian Award Groups
-Romanian Titles
-Romanian Orders
-Romanian Medals
-Romanian Badges
-Romanian Uniforms
Spanish Republic
Tuvan People's Republic
Socialist Republic Of Vietnam
-Vietnamese Titles
-Vietnamese Orders
-Vietnamese Medals
-Vietnamese Decorations
-Vietnamese Badges
People's Democratic Republic Of Yemen
-Yemeni Orders
-Yemeni Medals
-Yemeni Badges
Socialist Federal Republic Of Yugoslavia
-Yugoslavian Award Groups
-Yugoslavian Orders
-Yugoslavian Medals
-Yugoslavian Badges
Awards And Decorations Of Socialist Parties Of Non-Communist Nations
Section 4
Imperial Russian Sphere And Resulting Nations.
Democratic Republic Of Armenia 1918-1921
Azerbaijan Democratic Republic 1918-1920
Belarusian People's Republic 1918-1919
Principality/Kingdom Of Bulgaria 1878-1944
-Bulgarian Orders
-Bulgarian Medals
-Bulgarian Badges
Republic Of Estonia 1918-1940
Democratic Republic Of Georgia 1918-1921
Republic Of Latvia 1918-1940
Republic Of Lithuania 1918-1940
Mongolia 1921-1924
Republic Of Poland 1918-1939
-Polish Orders
-Polish Medals
-Polish Badges
Russian Empire
-Russian Orders
-Russian Medals
-Russian Badges
-Russian Uniforms
White Russia 1917-
Ukrainian People's Republic 1918-1921
Section 5
Post-Communist Nations
Republic Of Albania
-Albanian Orders
-Albanian Medals
-Albanian Badges
Bosnia And Herzegovina
Republic Of Bulgaria
-Bulgarian Orders
-Bulgarian Medals
-Bulgarian Badges
Republic Of Croatia
Czech Republic
Republic Of Hungary
Republic Of Macedonia
Mongolia
-Mongolian Orders
-Mongolian Medals
-Mongolian Badges
Montenegro
Republic Of Poland
-Polish Orders
-Polish Medals
-Polish Badges
Republic Of Romania
Republic Of Serbia
Slovak Republic
Republic Of Slovenia
Please Vote on Rearrangement of Soviet Bloc section! - Lapa - 02-15-2012
OK, I'll join the chorus too, then
1. Why put Tuva in Section 3 - Soviet Sphere, when it was a part of the RSFSR, and therefore a component of the USSR itself :confused:
2. Some important sections that, IMHO, are missing from Section 3 - Soviet Sphere:
--Afghan Paper Items
--Chinese Paper Items
--Chinese Uniforms
--Czechoslovakian Award Groups
--Czechoslovakian Titles (they do have Hero and Labor titles...)
--Czechoslovakian Paper Items
--Hungarian Award Groups
--Korean Uniforms
--Polish Paper Items
--Polish Uniforms
--Romanian Paper Items
--Vietnamese Award Groups
--Yugoslavian Titles
--Yugoslavian Uniforms
3. Awards And Decorations Of Socialist Parties Of Non-Communist Nations: many nations have (or had) both communist and socialist/social-democratic parties. The terminology currently used for this section may lead to confusion as to what should/shouldn't be included.
4. Section 4 - Imperial Russian Sphere And Resulting Nations
Currently, this section looks mostly like an arbitrarily designed, throw-all type of section. IMO, all the People's Republics should be put in Section 1, and not split along hard-set dates that end up artificially splitting one element over several sections (specifically, this applies to Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Mongolia, and Ukraine).
Marc