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Medal bar, OK or put together? - Kim - 04-11-2005
Hope someone can help me with this one. I have had this one some time now and always wondered if it 100% OK. Sure, research would give a definite answer but speculation is all I want to do now. No paper work at all for this one.
Is this combination probable? What I mean is: should he have an other medal or perhaps some of them are unlikly. All the ribbons are recycled from the single ribbon bar.
Notice the first ORB that have been a screw back once. Military Merit has no serial number.
/Kim
Medal bar, OK or put together? - HuliganRS - 04-11-2005
Kim,
Is it possible to see a nice pic of the first RB?
Thanks!
Rusty.
Medal bar, OK or put together? - Kim - 04-11-2005
No problems with more photos. I am not getting along with my scanner at the moment, clearly seen in the photos. These are from my digital camera.
The ORB started its existance as a normal suspended one. Later the owner had it reworked into a screw back and then back into a suspended one.
/Kim
Medal bar, OK or put together? - Lapa - 04-11-2005
Kim,
There seems to be some mix up in the order the medals are hung, I believe. The long service should be at the end, not before the Victory over Germany.
Marc
Medal bar, OK or put together? - Dave - 04-12-2005
Why don't you research it and find out for sure if it's legit or not?
Dave
Medal bar, OK or put together? - desantnik - 04-12-2005
Look at all the medals together and see if they have a similar amount of wear. If a campaign medal looks pristine and two or three others are all beat up, it's usually a sign that the set is "assembled" by someone other than the original owner. Of course, the pristine one COULD have been awarded much later, but I'm speaking in generalities.
I find it unusual that the recipient decided to convert one RB, but not the other. The converted one has a high SN, 201.XXX - not like it was originally a screwback and converted to suspension for uniformity, then reconverted to go back on the suspension. If he converted one, why didn't he do both? There were a handful of units who hit both Berlin and Prague (3 and 4 Gd Tank Armies if I remember correctly) so it is a possibility.
Medal bar, OK or put together? - Kim - 04-12-2005
Thanks for all the replies!
Marc: Yes the order is wrong. That is one reason to doubt this one. But it could be an old veteran putting together his medals for easy-wear on 9 May. Then he did not care for order and put his last/latest medal in front of the campaign medals. Speculation, of course but who knows...
Dave: Yes, research would cast a new light on this subject. But my collecting budget is not that big at the moment. So if I choose to have some of my medals researched this "group" would be far down the list.
Desantnik: The wear is about the same for all the campaign medals, a bit less on the 30yoRA and MM. All the medals also have traces of white polish on them. The second ORB have a significantly higher number: 532 230. So he did not have them at the same time.
Adding a picture of a Hero that have had his orders reworked.
/Kim