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+------ Thread: Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up (/Thread-Red-Star-U-N-Submachine-Gunner-35th-Guards-Tank-Brigade-Posthumous-Catch-up)
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - ericlida - 05-21-2008
I think this is very interesting document. At least I never seen this kind of document before. This document issued to the Hero posthumously. The Red Star found his Hero later (no number of the Order). BTW the document signed by Gorbachev.
Eric
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - Nota Bene - 05-21-2008
Eric,
The actual order was most likely never given, just the document.
Alexei
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - ericlida - 05-22-2008
Nota Bene Wrote:Eric,
The actual order was most likely never given, just the document.
Alexei
Probably. But the document is realy interesting and expensive :mad:
I would buy it for my collection, but the price is more than $300.00 :mad:
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - Lapa - 05-22-2008
Guys,
Wouldn't that booklet fall into the range of late unissued serial numbers?
Marc
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - ericlida - 05-22-2008
Lapa Wrote:Guys,
Wouldn't that booklet fall into the range of late unissued serial numbers?
Marc
Marc
There is no number of the order at all. It can be any, because it does not exist.
Probably Alexei is correct saying that the order never been awarded to the receient.
Just Order Book has been awarded to the family (his sister Kolesnikova Elena Timofeevna). You can see her name on the book.
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - Lapa - 05-22-2008
Eric,
I was refering to the booklet serial number. Blank order booklets of the latter types (prefix letters Л and М) were, and sometimes are, available for sale.
Marc
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - desantnik - 05-22-2008
Lapa Wrote:Eric,
I was refering to the booklet serial number. Blank order booklets of the latter types (prefix letters Л and М) were, and sometimes are, available for sale.
Marc
You could be right, but aren't the blank booklets themselves selling for a few hundred bucks?
Not to imply all forgers are rational, but someone could have added a higher award like a Lenin or late # Red Banner to the booklet and got significantly more.:confused:
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - Lapa - 05-23-2008
Paul,
They are now selling in the $100 vincinity, but that wasn't always the case... I remember a time, not that long ago, when you could pick these up for $5 a piece; wartime blank booklets (yes, I've seen some of these too, although much less often) were going for substantially more $$$, eg $25 :D
Marc
Red Star,U/N,Submachine-Gunner,35th Guards Tank Brigade,Posthumous Catch-up - CtahhR - 11-22-2015
Here is what is currently available of the original citation.
He died of wounds on 24th January 1945.