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People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - CtahhR - 04-05-2011
Does anyone out there know just what and when this belt buckle was? It was thrown in a lot of items I bought a few years ago and I've just put it in a drawer since I had it and today I came across it and It'd be nice to have some more information on it - other than it's old, crudely made and heavy. Sorry about the poor picture but my scanner prefers 2D pictures and I don't have a camera. Thanking you in advance.
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - Jeffrey Meffert - 04-05-2011
It's an engineering corps device. Perhaps someone took a leftover collar tab or epaulet device and grafted it onto a belt buckle. Interesting "trench art" sort of thing
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - Al-muell - 04-05-2011
Wouldn't it be railway? They also used this symbol and they probably had some belt buckles, at least in Stalin's era.
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - EricFG - 04-05-2011
Pretty large for a collar tab, isn't it? I mean, those Soviet buckles can be pretty large.
What's the back look like?
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - CtahhR - 04-05-2011
Here is the back of a different buckle I found on the internet (since I don't have a camera) that has the same sort of back (except the buckle in question is flat). I also found a picture of this similar buckle on a site claiming to be offering relics of Stalingrad for free.
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - RichieC - 04-06-2011
Al-muell Wrote:Wouldn't it be railway? They also used this symbol and they probably had some belt buckles, at least in Stalin's era.
I would say that also...
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - CtahhR - 04-06-2011
If I had to hazard a guess on it's age it is DEFINITELY pre-GPW probably the mid-late 20's. It is very heavy duty and has had a good share of honest wear on it. The spanner and hammer on the front are bigger and more heavy duty than collar tabs and are very firmly attached.
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - Will - 04-06-2011
My first thought was Railway as well.
The crossed hammer and wrench as a Railways symbol went back to Tsarist times and was continued under the Soviet regime.
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - CtahhR - 04-07-2011
I thought when I posted this picture that I'd get an encyclopaedic answer within minutes as there are so many top folks who really know their stuff. I thought I was pretty stupid for not knowing what it was when I posted it and that someone would be able to tell me when and where and by who it was made etc. but it seems it's a bit of a head scratcher. I have searched and searched and apart from the similar (but definitely not the same) buckle which is claimed to be a Stalingrad relic, I've not come up with anything. It really can't be a one off and I'm sure when its identity has been uncovered we'll find out just how common it was. Fingers crossed someone out there knows just what it is. I suppose if we cross off the list what it can't be it will only leave what it can be.
People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle - RichieC - 04-07-2011
Kindly show an image of the reverse...