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Ssh-40 with painted star - rocketscientist - 11-18-2012
Hello! What's your opinion on this war-time soviet helmet I have just got in my collection? I have little or no experience in this type of helmets, please help!
ciao
sergio
Ssh-40 with painted star - rocketscientist - 11-18-2012
I forgot to mention that this helmet shows the markings of LMZ, and seems having been issued in 1944. There is no chinstrap, but the hooks are firmly there.
Ssh-40 with painted star - Al-muell - 11-19-2012
I am by no means a helmet specialist, but by comparison to ones I have seen it looks OK to me. The star may be original to it as well, altough they weren't too common. Is there a small star stamped on the lower side of the visor?
Ssh-40 with painted star - rocketscientist - 11-19-2012
Thanks for your comments, Al-muell. There is no star, I know what you mean. There is one in a post-war reconditioned helmet I have in my collection. My understanding is that the star was added in the refurbishment process and should not be present in wartime helmets.
Just for completess, I have got comments from reputable experts that the LMZ stamp is not compatible with the year (1944) since it was abandoned some years before for a new layout. Therefore the stamp is a fake. The red star is also questioned, since it seems having being abandoned in the late war helmets.
Ssh-40 with painted star - Al-muell - 11-20-2012
Hmm, I didn't notice the stamp is wong, but it is.
The painted star was always a rare occurence (much rarer than it is common belif), however it would be possible that this star was placed there durig the war, if a soldier or his commander would like it. But since the stamp is fake, the star is also likely to be
As for the stamped stars - I mean the one stamped in metal, not an ink stamp. They should be present in wartime helmets, they are absent in later ones (like those made in late 50's).
Ssh-40 with painted star - rocketscientist - 11-20-2012
uh-oh! Then it is worse than I expected...
Thanks for this piece of information, Al-muell!
Ssh-40 with painted star - slava1stclass - 11-26-2012
rocketscientist,
A period image that dates to May 1st, 1948 as taken in Kyiv.
Regards,
slava1stclass
Ssh-40 with painted star - desantnik - 11-26-2012
Not to be a Johnny-come-lately and I fully admit that I have little experience with Soviet helmets, but the clarity and boldness of the stamps looked suspect to me.
Ssh-40 with painted star - CtahhR - 11-27-2012
I believe this is a later example that has been made to look like an earlier one to cash in.
These later ones can often be picked up (in bulk) for $10-$15 a piece (delivered) and obviously someone wanted to put a little bit of effort in to make a fatter profit.
I have a few dozen Soviet helmets that I may drag out next year and photograph.