KGB Visors

[Commissar]

Hey guys,

I've been browings epay for some KGB stuff, found a visor and I've been wondering if it could be authentic before I even think about getting it.

Then again the same seller also has a Russian Presidential parade uniform, it is so bloody beautiful I nearly clicked buy it before I realized it was 1500 dollars...scary...

But anyways, I'm not sure if this is fantasy or not.

[Al-muell]

Two possibilities:
1.It's altered Aeroflot cap.
2.It's one of those myserious KGB/militia caps - they DID show up in the last days of the Soviet union and they look like militia caps with just an exception for the KGB royal blue band and piping, but noone's sure what are - some say it's KGB investigation division, others that it's airport security militia squads...
Who knows? they show up in either white or militia gray crown and always have militia badges.

[Lapa]

95% certain that it is Milicia (by the way, soon to be renamed Policia, as of 1/1/2011 :D)

Marc

[Esteban_cool]

Don´t know Lonny. You should ask for a picture of the inside, and/or try to find another source that has the same cap -if real- with the original cord.

[Tretov]

I don't like the cord of this cap. It is not golden, but faded yellow thread.

[Lapa]

The cord is definitely post-soviet...

[deValcourt]

I agree with Esteban. I'd like to see the inside of the cap. I've never seen a "summer" white KGB cap (or uniform) in any reference or other photos. That doesn't mean they didn't exist, it just means I'd do more research before even considering a purchase of this type.

Don't think I'm going to go out and bid on it, but just out of curiosity, what's the seller asking for this highly questionable cap?

Phillip

[Commissar]

Thanks Mad Zombie Lenin for the insight and all you other guys with your extensive knowledge!

But for 70 bucks plus shipping I might pass on it until more of them show up, I've seen them en masse before so maybe they'll appear again.

[Al-muell]

Back to the cap - I have just obtained a 1987militia regulation book published in 1991 and it does not show royal blue bands, but it does show shield and swords as a symbol of the investigative branch, so If the story behind the blue-banded caps is true, they have to be late 1991 (like july-august) Soviet or totaly post-soviet or at least they were never introduced (as I said have seen one dated 1990, so it was either planned to be introduced or it was a fake).

[deValcourt]

Originally Posted by Al-muell

Back to the cap - I have just obtained a 1987militia regulation book published in 1991 and it does not show royal blue bands, but it does show shield and swords as a symbol of the investigative branch, so If the story behind the blue-banded caps is true, they have to be late 1991 (like July-august) Soviet or totally post-soviet or at least they were never introduced (as I said have seen one dated 1990, so it was either planned to be introduced or it was a fake).

There was so much in the way of fantasy pieces made in 1990-1992 that in my opinion, it is really difficult to tell what was what and which ones were authentic. So much in the way of new meets old, that folks still wearing uniforms at that time tended to just wear their Soviet uniform with the "new patches" mentioned above. Just my observations.

Then again, for quite some time (until 1995 for sure), just the H&S buttons were replaced with the eagle ones on the uniforms.

Phillip