Eternal Return

[aironmeiden]

Today I was reading about Yezhov and about the soviet censorship that attempt to remove this man from history.
This is a funny example of "eternal return"...

[EricFG]

I've seen those two images a few times, usually when I'm reading about the "purges". I think there's quite a few examples of people edited out of Stalin-era photos.
Piss off the Vozhd and you disappear; in more ways than one!

[aironmeiden]

Yes the two photo i put on top are of soviet era censorship... the one i put on the bottom is modern era censorship.
Irony of the case.

[Al-muell]

I will look for the pics in the afternoon, but therwe are two famous ones:
1.Lenin giving a speech to the crowds. In original version there was Trotskiy standing below. On later (stalinist and post-stalinist period) version of this pic Lyova misteriously disappears...

2.A famous pictore where lenin sits relaxed in a garden accompanied by Stalin sitting in a bit bent forwards pose. From what I know, originally there was no Stalin in this fotograph - he was added later.

[aironmeiden]

Lenin and Trotsky

[aironmeiden]

Lenin and Trotsky again

[aironmeiden]

Lenin and Stalin, suspect fake

[Al-muell]

Those are the pictures. As I see, I didn't remember correctly, since not only Trotskiy but also Kamienev was removed.
As for the last picture - numerous sources state that it is a fake (inclouding a polish schoolbook published in 1989 ), but The original version of the picture is nowhere to be found. I am wondering wether there was somebody else in that seat or is it rather Lenin who was moved from a different picture?

[Esteban_cool]

Here´s the original photograph of the latter picture

[deValcourt]

There's always the classic post-Soviet Yeltsin sitting with Clinton on international TV and Yeltsin calling Clinton his "son" or "boy" and tapping him on the knee like a kid who just made grandpa smile by learning his multiplication tables. Come to think of it, I don't remember Yeltsin ever using the word president and Clinton together when both men were in the same room. Local channels showed that side of the conference. The BBC and CNN had a much more tactfully edited piece with only a few quick quotes from Yeltsin (incorrectly translated) and Clinton.

I wonder which country would really be saving face by censoring Yeltsin's drunken endearments towards Clinton? The Russian interpreters laughed about that idea for days after each visit that pair made anywhere in the world. Anyone remember a drunken Yeltsin in only his underwear trying to catch a cab one night outside of the White House because he "wanted to find some pizza." I doubt the American's (or the Russians) heard about that little incident unless it was leaked by somebody who saw the secret service guys hauling/dragging Yeltsin back to the Blair House across the street from the White House where he was supposed to be staying - in the strictest sense of the word.

Phillip