Hero Group Ivan Porfir'evich Motornyj.

05-08-2012, 06:05 PM

What estimate price could be for this set ?
All Awards on one person (pilot) Ivan Motorny Porfirjevich
Without award documents...

Hero 695
Lenin order 17414 (screw)
Red Banner 17854 (screw)
Red Banner "2" 2nd award 728 (screw)
Alexander Nevsky 872 (remade with a screw)
Great Motherland War 1st grade 157180

Sorry have no permition to attach images...

Thanks a lot!

GabrielMk3 · 05-09-2012, 12:45 AM

From "those" images, and the fact that they're in Latvia, I'd say they're worth about 30-50 USD dollars, which I'd certainly pay you right now, gambling on the deal, haha.

But how do you know they are all from Ivan Motorny Porfirjevich, and have you confirmed their's authenticity?

We could need some better pictures of each item to check if they're real. But I guess they're literally from Lativa.

And by the way; have you replaced of changed anything on them? Like the screwplates for example?

Alfred · 05-09-2012, 02:15 AM

vitber,

first be sure that all awards are original !

In this case it is very easy to research if the numbers belong to the person.

To the price:

around a little new car.

best regards
Andreas

Henry Sakaida · 06-05-2012, 09:13 PM

May I add my unsolicited opinion?

If real, it would be very unaffordable to most of us collectors. Secondly, if a collector here in the US really wants it, does the seller send it by mail?
What happens if their customs confiscate it? Who eats it? Does the buyer get his money back for non-delivery?

What happens if the seller has photographed authentic medals, yet the buyer receives fakes? The buyer will contact the seller and say, "Hey! They were NOT the ones you had described!" And the seller says, "I sent you the originals and now, you are complaining that I sent you fakes?!!! What are you trying to pull on me??!!!" And the buyer is out of luck.

The medals may or may not be real; why would anyone take that kind of chance when you do not know the seller? If the seller is smart, they should contact Sothesbys or some other reputable action house. Forget epay.
Or find a buyer in Moscow. The only problem is that once people over there know what you have, you run the risk of getting it ripped off.

HENRY

05-09-2012, 02:47 AM

http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=2866

Site is in Russian, at the end Hero number is mentioned, also there is mentioned that later after war he lived and died in Riga.
Set comes from heir.
No doubts about authenticity.

05-09-2012, 02:51 AM

Alexander Nevsky pendant (remake on a screw)

05-09-2012, 02:54 AM

Red Banner (screw)

05-09-2012, 02:55 AM

Red Banner [2] 2nd award (screw)

05-09-2012, 02:59 AM

Lenin Order (screw)

05-09-2012, 03:01 AM

Great Motherland War Order 1st grade

05-09-2012, 12:45 AM	#2
GabrielMk3 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Norway Posts: 190	Re: set: Hero, Lenin, 2xRed Banners, Nevsky, Grate Motherland War 1grade From "those" images, and the fact that they're in Latvia, I'd say they're worth about 30-50 USD dollars, which I'd certainly pay you right now, gambling on the deal, haha. But how do you know they are all from Ivan Motorny Porfirjevich, and have you confirmed their's authenticity? We could need some better pictures of each item to check if they're real. But I guess they're literally from Lativa. And by the way; have you replaced of changed anything on them? Like the screwplates for example? Last edited by GabrielMk3; 05-09-2012 at 12:47 AM.

05-09-2012, 02:15 AM	#3
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Re: set: Hero, Lenin, 2xRed Banners, Nevsky, Grate Motherland War 1grade vitber, first be sure that all awards are original ! In this case it is very easy to research if the numbers belong to the person. To the price: around a little new car. best regards Andreas

06-05-2012, 09:13 PM	#4
Henry Sakaida Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 92	Re: set: Hero, Lenin, 2xRed Banners, Nevsky, Grate Motherland War 1grade May I add my unsolicited opinion? If real, it would be very unaffordable to most of us collectors. Secondly, if a collector here in the US really wants it, does the seller send it by mail? What happens if their customs confiscate it? Who eats it? Does the buyer get his money back for non-delivery? What happens if the seller has photographed authentic medals, yet the buyer receives fakes? The buyer will contact the seller and say, "Hey! They were NOT the ones you had described!" And the seller says, "I sent you the originals and now, you are complaining that I sent you fakes?!!! What are you trying to pull on me??!!!" And the buyer is out of luck. The medals may or may not be real; why would anyone take that kind of chance when you do not know the seller? If the seller is smart, they should contact Sothesbys or some other reputable action house. Forget epay. Or find a buyer in Moscow. The only problem is that once people over there know what you have, you run the risk of getting it ripped off. HENRY Last edited by Henry Sakaida; 06-06-2012 at 10:55 AM. Reason: Typo

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