Fake KGB Badge

DougD · 03-09-2008, 09:01 AM

This badge was part of a very large and well established state-security collection that was recently sold off...this was the only badge that was not easy to ID (if its ok).

Thoughts?

DougD

***desantnik*** · 03-09-2008, 09:16 AM

Everything about it looks crapola - irregular white enamel, "neon" colors, too darkened bronze colors, etc.

DougD · 03-09-2008, 09:18 AM

That was the fear...if bad, what badge were they trying to copy?

Kirchgoens · 03-09-2008, 09:25 AM

The white enamel doesn't look much worse than what I've seen on some early guard badges, some of the paramilitary badges, and labor badges from the 40's and earlier. In short, it generally doesn't look that bad to me.

I think better lighting and macro on the photos might tell a bit more. Beyond that, I don't know my chekist badges, so I'm starting from a delightful point of ignorance.

Kirchgoens · 03-09-2008, 09:34 AM

On page 81 of Martin Goodman's "Lenin's Legacy", you'll find an 80's era "Honored Member of the KBG" badge that has the same layout, colors, and wording minus the white enamel, but the Goodman photo looks like an aluminum badge and has a goldish finish to the "bare" metal parts. Other than that, they are the same badge. The one in the photo in the posting above just looks a lot older and with white enamel.

Lapa · 03-09-2008, 10:10 AM

Doug,

How about showing us 'the dark side of the moon'.

Marc

03-09-2008, 09:18 AM	#3
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 51 Posts: 2,060	badge That was the fear...if bad, what badge were they trying to copy?

03-09-2008, 09:25 AM	#4
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	White enamel... The white enamel doesn't look much worse than what I've seen on some early guard badges, some of the paramilitary badges, and labor badges from the 40's and earlier. In short, it generally doesn't look that bad to me. I think better lighting and macro on the photos might tell a bit more. Beyond that, I don't know my chekist badges, so I'm starting from a delightful point of ignorance.

03-09-2008, 09:34 AM	#5
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	Similar one in Goodman's book... On page 81 of Martin Goodman's "Lenin's Legacy", you'll find an 80's era "Honored Member of the KBG" badge that has the same layout, colors, and wording minus the white enamel, but the Goodman photo looks like an aluminum badge and has a goldish finish to the "bare" metal parts. Other than that, they are the same badge. The one in the photo in the posting above just looks a lot older and with white enamel.

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03-09-2008, 09:16 AM	#2
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,341	Everything about it looks crapola - irregular white enamel, "neon" colors, too darkened bronze colors, etc.

03-09-2008, 10:10 AM	#6
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Doug, How about showing us 'the dark side of the moon'. Marc

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