ericlida Wrote:According to the information I have:Volinov and Malinovskiy never were jews
2 times HSU: 1. Boris Volinov; 2. David Dragynskiy; 3. Rodion Malinovskiy; 4. Yakov Smushkevich.
HSU - 143.
Hero of Russia - 4.
Tal,
May be the author means that there were 6 Jewish Generals AND HSU at the same time?
Eric
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04-30-2005, 03:34 AM
I believe the data was correct. Only six jews being generals became HSU during GPW:
Izrail Solomonevich Beskin Lavrenty Zacharovich Kotliar Semyon Moyseyevich Krivoshein Yakov Gregorovich Kraizer Semyon Davidovich Kremer Matvei Grigoryevich Vaintrub
04-30-2005, 04:28 AM
Eugene,
I don't know about Malinovsky, but Volinov's mother was jewish. Eric.
Volinov is a Colonel, not general. And he is a Jew. I know him personaly, and his mother is Jewis, as stated above. I never stated that the 16 HSU in the list got HSU during GPW, but the statement by the seller is not clear.
Tal
Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!
04-30-2005, 12:09 PM
I thought Dragunsky was a Colonel at the end of the War. He did retire as a Colonel General though. I could be wrong, however... If you ever get a chance to read his book, it's a good one (and in English!)
Dave
04-30-2005, 12:11 PM
Tal Inbar Wrote:I never stated that the 16 HSU in the list got HSU during GPW, but the statement by the seller is not clear.I agree, you never did. You just said that all of them were generals during GPW. Smushkevich and Shtern were arrested before GPW. Looks like seller's info is correct. Only six jews being generals during GPW became HSU. Wouldn't you agree?
04-30-2005, 01:26 PM
I agree, Eugene. The title of Sverdlov is misleading.
But, 10 Jews were Generals during the GPW and they have HSU. I can't say if the got the HSU during the war. Anyway, I wonder what is the price of the group, and HOW NJ became the home for high end awards...
Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!
04-30-2005, 03:31 PM
Quote:Anyway, I wonder what is the price of the group, and HOW NJ became the home for high end awards... NY and NJ always were, now, at the times of great mergers, they merged :p |
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