Red Star.

[Soviet]

I don't know if it has been shown here before, but here it is. Recycling Red Star to do what? For sure not gold theeth this time! :wow

[Lapa]

Soviet,

Not gold teeth, that's for sure, but plain silver :D

Marc

[jefflgarrison]

Where is you get the photo from? What a sad end to such a beautiful award.

[Nack]

Yeah, that pic is somewhere else on this forum. In that thread I think we discussed how people melted down O-Lenins for gold teeth. :mad:

[Simon]

I read about RS recycled this way on a Russian forum. Some guy cuts out RS medallions and puts each one in a ring. He told the collector that these rings sell better than orders. :mad:

Simon

[matteti]

He told the collector that these rings sell better than orders. :mad:

Simon

Not surprised when I think that I could still easily find red stars for 7-8$ even just few years ago in Ukraine.

[jefflgarrison]

Not surprised when I think that I could still easily find red stars for 7-8$ even just few years ago in Ukraine.

Well, those days are LOOOONNNNGGGGG Gone.

My friend in Donetsk cannot find them for under $35 even being sold to a Ukrainian.

[matteti]

Well, those days are LOOOONNNNGGGGG Gone.

My friend in Donetsk cannot find them for under $35 even being sold to a Ukrainian.

It was just two small years ago. Could get this in more than one place (in the western Ukraine mostly). Also got a 2nd class medal for distinguished military service for 7$ and issued air force officer visor hat for 2$ + several badges for very cheap. I thought there was no point to buy too much stuff I already had, but now I realize I should have bought everything that I could get.

In the bigger cities, prices were much higher and fakes were everywhere.

[jefflgarrison]

All MZPP Stars have very unique mintmark (the smallest letters out of all Red Star mintmarks) and typical non-accurate handwriting. Also they have distinct serial number ranges.

MONDVOR,

Can you provide that information about the serial ranges?


To everyone, how accurate is the list by Shishkov & Muzalevsky posted on the ORS info pages on this site?

My first order with book as a number of #2.821.039 and was issued in 1949. However, according to the list on page five they put that number around 1945. I see other people trying to put 1 million numbers around 1943. Is there some better list out there?

[MONDVOR]

MONDVOR,

Can you provide that information about the serial ranges?

No problem. MZPP Red Stars were manufactured in two serial number ranges.
For the first range minimal known number is 1792337 and maximal is 1945503.
For the second range minimal known number is 2051119 and maximal is 2290504.
If you have any corrections or additions to those ranges please let me know.

MONDVOR,

To everyone, how accurate is the list by Shishkov & Muzalevsky posted on the ORS info pages on this site?

My first order with book as a number of #2.821.039 and was issued in 1949. However, according to the list on page five they put that number around 1945. I see other people trying to put 1 million numbers around 1943. Is there some better list out there?

I have already discussed the situation with s\n lists on different forums. I have seen that in many cases people mix together two different dates - date of issue (date of actual prikaz or Ukaz) and date when award was bestowed to the cavaler (when he actually physically received the award). Those things NEVER should be mixed and I can explain you why.
For example some person was awarded with Red Star in according with his division's prikaz on October 14, 1943. But few days later he was wounded and transferred to the hospital (or his regiment was transferred to another Army or Front). So his traces were missed and he didn't get his order right away. However, after the war ended his unit finally was traced and this Red Star was bestowed to him on July 7, 1945. Of course the number of this Star would be high (1,700,000 or so). If you only create a table with date of issue you can be easily surprised why Stars or other orders issued in 1943 or 1944 have such a big numbers.
My point is this - when you making a table, you should create TWO columns for datas. First for date of issue and the second for date when award was bestowed. If you don't know one of those datas just leave it blank.
It is not a secret that correlation between date of bestowing and serial number is much stronger than between date of issue and serial number.
I'm not sure if I explained everything in understandable manner. Please feel free to ask any questions and I would be happy to answer them (if I can :)).