11-20-2006, 02:08 AM (This post was last modified: 11-20-2006, 02:55 AM by Mark Signa.)
I have small researched group with Red Star awarded in 1970, serial number 3595741. Then, I found Red Star in same serial number range ( 36XX XXX) in Dave's "for valor" web. - same year 1970. According to AVERS No. 6, the lowest Red star for 1968-1991 period is # 3754168. I don't have the award book with my Red Star ( only Xerox copy ), but Dave posted image of his award book with 1970 Red Star. Looks like it was couple left over Red Stars with low serial numbers in 1970...
What is your question? S/Ns weren't issued either sequentially by S/N or chronologically. About the only thing we can say is your piece is a post-war awarding, "probably" later than 1970...
Mark Signa Wrote:Thanks Paul, one more question - is it possible for Red Star with serial number in 553xxx range awarded in 1945?
I have 3 RS on record in the 553K s/n range, all authorized between FEB and JUL 44 and awarded by various units of the 1 Belorussian Front.
Now, here's where you have to be specific and please reference Echoes of War - do you mean "authorized" or "bestowed". Authorized is when a HQ signed an order granting the privilege of an award. Bestowed is when it was physically pinned to the guy's chest.
That being said, it is entirely possible your 553K RS was authorized and/or even bestowed in 1945. Confused?
I'd encourage you to check out Echoes of War - it should clear up your question.
I don't completely agree with Avers... The lowest serial number for that time period that I have recorded is 3602335 which was awarded on 15 Feb 1968. I actually have recorded a serial number range of about 2000 above that all awarded on 15 Feb 1968. It seems (from the research) that these all appear to have been awarded in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the Soviet Army.
MONDVOR Wrote:Oh, yes. I can share this information, but I'm on my job currently. I should check my files after I return back home. I'll try to place it this evening.
Hey, is this still a possibility? Would really love to have this information if you can share it.
As a refresher, it is the information "on what mints manufactured the 'Order of the Red Star', how many of them was totally produced."
Sorry for late reply, I've almost forgot about this :(
OK, here we go...
1942 - produced on Krasnokamsk Mint 27.000 - 45.000, Moscow Mint 45.000 - 60.000, again Krasnokamsk Mint 60.000 - 61.000 and finally Moscow Mint 61.000 - 93.000.
1943 - produced only on Moscow Mint 93.000 - 440.000
1944 - produced only on Moscow Mint 440.000 - 1.023.000
February-March 1945 - Moscow Mint 1.023.000 - 1.790.000
September 1945 - Moscow Mint - 1.950.000 - 2.050.000
September 1945 - Platinapribor Moscow Factory - 2.050.000 - 2.500.000
September 1945 - Moscow Mint - 2.500.000 - 2.760.000
All others were made in post-war period.
I rounded the number ranges, because this information have not being published yet. I hope all visitors would understand that I placed those data just to share the information I have. Please do not publish or reproduce it.
12-12-2006, 04:21 PM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2006, 04:44 PM by jefflgarrison.)
Was there ever a reason given for moving the production from the Moscow Mint to Platinapribor Factory?
While we are on the subject of stars. Here is an interesting one I have purchased recently.
It definately has a concaved back. The number is #2.578.223 but the lettering on the star seems really neat for that range.
According to Soviet-Screwbacks.com, it should be a v11 being in that range. However, with the concave back, it places it in the v13 range. Furthermore, the numbers seem to be similar to something out of the 3.3 million range.
Opinions are desired. I hope you can see the concave aspects. Was hard to try to capture it through photos.
jefflgarrison Wrote:Was there ever a reason given for moving the production from the Moscow Mint to Platinapribor Factory?
Of course it was a reason. After "long service award" decree came out it was a huge demand on Red Stars. So they decided to use another Moscow factory to make Red Stars and GPWs. Two factories can make more medals than one, isn't it?
jefflgarrison Wrote:According to Soviet-Screwbacks.com, it should be a v11 being in that range. However, with the concave back, it places it in the v13 range. Furthermore, the numbers seem to be similar to something out of the 3.3 million range.
I can search for a close numbers related to your Red Star. I can do it in the evening after coming back from my work. I think I've seen this handwriting many times.
About Soviet-Srewbacks classification you should ask Alex Filer. I do not use his classification, because it is connected with such subjective things as concavity. But concavity has nothing to do with actual die press-form, it is just a product of some technological differences during manufacturing (using a soft-metal pad, often lead, as a dempfer between the order and a press to equally distribute the pressure). Sorry, don't know how to explain it in English.
