Glory.

[Nota Bene]

If anybody has a research to post in this thread I would love to see it.

Alexei

[ANZAC]

Can someone suggest the number range for awarding glories for Hungary/Korea? Over 700k??

Brendan;)

[desantnik]

Paul,

It also happens to be later than Korea. I still maintain that OG3 were given out for the Soviet-Chinese border incident in the 1960's.

Hungary was a massive, though short, ground conflict with plenty of opportunities for NCO/enlisted to be given awards. Korea was a long, though small air conflict, mostly fought by Glory-ineligible officers aviators with NCO/enlisted personnel in support, non-valor-associated roles far from combat.

I've yet to see documentation on Soviet-Chinese border either.

[Kirchgoens]

But no walk the walk yet... :D It's all a bit funny for the amateurs like me, guys who will never live in the cut-throat world of the professional historian or academic.

Until someone actually puts something attributable out there that shows it for real (whether on this forum or in a published work), it all sounds like a combination of hype and conjecture, hope and myth, sprinkled with an amusing dose of "I gotta secret!"

I think I heard somewhere that Bigfoot was sighted with an OG3 in the Pacific Northwest or Alaska. Could it have been for clandestine activities near the Bering Straits in his youth...? :rolleyes:

Ah, the enigma of the post-war Order of Glory - if only the dead could talk, because the living will not... ;)

...Brian of the Silk Road

[ANZAC]

But no walk the walk yet... :D It's all a bit funny for the amateurs like me, guys who will never live in the cut-throat world of the professional historian or academic.

Until someone actually puts something attributable out there that shows it for real (whether on this forum or in a published work), it all sounds like a combination of hype and conjecture, hope and myth, sprinkled with an amusing dose of "I gotta secret!"

I think I heard somewhere that Bigfoot was sighted with an OG3 in the Pacific Northwest or Alaska. Could it have been for clandestine activities near the Bering Straits in his youth...? :rolleyes:

Ah, the enigma of the post-war Order of Glory - if only the dead could talk, because the living will not... ;)

...Brian of the Silk Road

Very interesting Brian. I have a camouflage OGIII awarded to Ivan Toogoodski for operations in the Siberian Rain Forest:rolleyes:

I for one would love to see the research and numbers on the discussed regions. I might be sitting on a few goodies;)

Brendan

[slava1stclass]

But no walk the walk yet... :D It's all a bit funny for the amateurs like me, guys who will never live in the cut-throat world of the professional historian or academic.

Until someone actually puts something attributable out there that shows it for real (whether on this forum or in a published work), it all sounds like a combination of hype and conjecture, hope and myth, sprinkled with an amusing dose of "I gotta secret!"

I think I heard somewhere that Bigfoot was sighted with an OG3 in the Pacific Northwest or Alaska. Could it have been for clandestine activities near the Bering Straits in his youth...? :rolleyes:

Ah, the enigma of the post-war Order of Glory - if only the dead could talk, because the living will not... ;)

...Brian of the Silk Road

To all:

Uncertain why one would consider a specific Ukaz reference not to be proof positive. It is correct to assert, however, that the distinction between amateurs and professionals is marked.

Regards,

slava1stclass

[slava1stclass]

Korea was a long, though small air conflict, mostly fought by Glory-ineligible officers aviators with NCO/enlisted personnel in support, non-valor-associated roles far from combat.

To all:

While this assertion is largely accurate, there is one element that warrants correction. One must not forget that propeller-driven aircraft were still in wide use. As we know, the Il-2 Sturmovik ground attack aircraft employed a rear gunner who was an enlisted man. I'll leave it at that.

Regards,

slava1stclass

[desantnik]

If you let the cat 3/4 out of the bag, why the remaining hesitation?

Be a professional, share with the community, and back up your assertion or be an amateur and continue to play "I've got a secret".

[slava1stclass]

If you let the cat 3/4 out of the bag, why the remaining hesitation?

Be a professional, share with the community, and back up your assertion or be an amateur and continue to play "I've got a secret".

desantnik,

There is certainly nothing unprofessional about deciding what, when and where one elects to share information. The important thing is that it is accomplished in the end. Patience is a good virtue.

Regards,

slava1stclass

[Kirchgoens]

...never lets on that he knows anything at all, allowing the rest to under-estimate him or even miss his presence altogether. That is the sign of true patience, the mark of the quiet professional. The tease, on the other hand, plays a very different game with motives more easily misunderstood...

Brendan - I think I once read that Ivan Toogoodski later bloomed as a celebrated Marshal of the Soviet Onion, but would often regale his guests over chive-flavored vodka with tales of his younger tailgunner days in the skies above the Great Siberian Rain Forest ("GraSuRF" for short) locked in deadly combat with the Red Baron, killer of Mighty Snoopy after a night spent half in the bag. Could it be true? :p Shot, over... Splash, over...

Brian of the Tribe of FIST, now in the Land of the Mighty I.K...