Womens Rank in the Great Patriotic War
#31
Tretov Wrote:There were general rank KGB officers; for example, I owned the uniform+photo group of General-Lieutnant V.I. Petrov of the Belarus SSR KGB for a while.

I stand corrected. I'm used to the idea of Generals in the NKVD, but then Army Generals holding general-level ranks (not necessarily actual Major Generals or anything) in the KGB. Thus, in their pictures, they're wearing their Army Generals uniforms--not a rarity.

Quite a find to own that uniform, nice one! Is the pipping on it royal blue?
#32
Synthesis Wrote:I stand corrected. I'm used to the idea of Generals in the NKVD, but then Army Generals holding general-level ranks (not necessarily actual Major Generals or anything) in the KGB. Thus, in their pictures, they're wearing their Army Generals uniforms--not a rarity.

Quite a find to own that uniform, nice one! Is the pipping on it royal blue?

No, it was piped in red, infantry red. Still to see is an authentic KGB general uniform piped in blue, indeed.
#33
Tretov Wrote:No, it was piped in red, infantry red. Still to see is an authentic KGB general uniform piped in blue, indeed.

Patrik,

As far as I know, from regulations and from talking with the curator of the Secret Police Museum here in StP, royal blue piping was used up to and including the rank of Polkovnik. Once reaching General's level, piping was standard red. As such, royal blue piped KGB general's uniforms are an incongruity.

Marc
#34
Lapa Wrote:Patrik,

As far as I know, from regulations and from talking with the curator of the Secret Police Museum here in StP, royal blue piping was used up to and including the rank of Polkovnik. Once reaching General's level, piping was standard red. As such, royal blue piped KGB general's uniforms are an incongruity.

Marc

I agree. :thumbsup
#35
Lapa Wrote:Patrik,

As far as I know, from regulations and from talking with the curator of the Secret Police Museum here in StP, royal blue piping was used up to and including the rank of Polkovnik. Once reaching General's level, piping was standard red. As such, royal blue piped KGB general's uniforms are an incongruity.

Marc

Add to the fact about the uncertainty about the accompanying cap--would it just be an Army Generals cap, or something different?
#36
Synthesis,

There is no uncertainty here: regular red piping with red band.

Marc
#37
But I have seen general parade, parade/walking-out and service caps with blue piping.
Would that be blue piping in a red piping uniform?:confused:
There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

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#38
Esteban,

Please post pictures of those; I have not seen them and the curator of the Secret Police Museum in StP has not either.

Marc
#39
Sorry for letting that detail go.
Pics are from undertheredstar.com, Randall Stewart´s site.


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There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

The Who, Won't get fooled again
#40
I'd say they are all post-soviet productions from Ukraine. As stated earlier in the thread, there is no references, evidences or other information that would give that general rank personell wore this kind of royal blue uniform combinations.

I have seen a fully medaled parade uniform of a KGB general, they even gave me a name; but again, the set was hanging on the wall rather than being worn in a photo.


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