Red,
From my list, the Order of Glory 3rd Class #277,xxx would be a late 1944, early 1945 award. But then again, it depends on where it was awarded.
One interesting aside about Glory 3rds, in researching then, I have found that all (in my sample of 25 or so) post war (1948 or later) awards of Orders of Glory 3rd Class were awarded for severe wounds in combat. Most of the time, the soldier was disabled from the wound and never returned to combat or was discharged from the armed forces. This has been true every time that the only award received was an Order of Glory 3rd Class.
This is exactly the type of information that I have been gathering. Even with the large sample of awards that I have, its difficult to be able to discern information from the data. One of the problems in picking a pattern about the awarding unit, is that different awards were awarded at different unit levels. Some were authorized by regiment, some division, some corps, etc... Even when you are able to discover the particular units location at a particular time, you run into large scale transfer of units. The person might have won the award with one unit, then have been transferred to another before the recommendation was approved and awarded, and both units might have been transferred to different Fronts or put in the reserves during the process. This is especially true if you are looking at the 1941 to 1943 time period as the Red Army was in a massive state of reorganization from both internal (Stavka) and external (German) forces.
A pattern has not emerged with wartime long service awards either. Since they were awarded by the lower units (Military Merit Medals and Red Stars), they were handed out from the common stock on hand. Higher level long service awards (especially Lenins) usually went to old reserve soldiers who were not at the Front. Its only in the 1950s, that you begin to see blocks of Long service awards and they are the vast majority of the awards issued.
Good luck with your list. It's a long process.
Take care,
Ed
From my list, the Order of Glory 3rd Class #277,xxx would be a late 1944, early 1945 award. But then again, it depends on where it was awarded.
One interesting aside about Glory 3rds, in researching then, I have found that all (in my sample of 25 or so) post war (1948 or later) awards of Orders of Glory 3rd Class were awarded for severe wounds in combat. Most of the time, the soldier was disabled from the wound and never returned to combat or was discharged from the armed forces. This has been true every time that the only award received was an Order of Glory 3rd Class.
This is exactly the type of information that I have been gathering. Even with the large sample of awards that I have, its difficult to be able to discern information from the data. One of the problems in picking a pattern about the awarding unit, is that different awards were awarded at different unit levels. Some were authorized by regiment, some division, some corps, etc... Even when you are able to discover the particular units location at a particular time, you run into large scale transfer of units. The person might have won the award with one unit, then have been transferred to another before the recommendation was approved and awarded, and both units might have been transferred to different Fronts or put in the reserves during the process. This is especially true if you are looking at the 1941 to 1943 time period as the Red Army was in a massive state of reorganization from both internal (Stavka) and external (German) forces.
A pattern has not emerged with wartime long service awards either. Since they were awarded by the lower units (Military Merit Medals and Red Stars), they were handed out from the common stock on hand. Higher level long service awards (especially Lenins) usually went to old reserve soldiers who were not at the Front. Its only in the 1950s, that you begin to see blocks of Long service awards and they are the vast majority of the awards issued.
Good luck with your list. It's a long process.
Take care,
Ed












