07-06-2006, 11:00 PM
Hello! welcome to the forum, its nice to have another person here in cloth rather than in the medals / orders section.
I have a few questions about the uniform, hope you don't mind, but I had some notions that might be wrong.
The uniform you show is an M1945 uniform with the rank insignia that I always thought was just for Kuznetsov (until 1955); though Isakov was an Admiral Flota in 1944, it was not the same Admiral Flota rank as Kuznetov (who got the new rank insignia as head of the navy). Isakov was not given the new rank insignia until 1955 when the title of the rank was changed to Admiral Flota of the Soviet Union (only he, Kuznetsov,and Gorshkov held this full rank). Was Isakov actually given the new insignia between 1944 and 1955? If so, can you show any photos of him wearing an M1943 or M1945 uniform with this insignia? There is an altered photo of him on P. 169 of Kutsenkovs Marshals book; its a nice photo but the boards are artist add ons (you can still see his stars below!
If he did not get the new rank insignia until 1955, then the M1945 uniform having the rank insignia does not make sense. Or, as has happened before, I am wrong and my notions about who had the rank insignia.
DougD
Moderator-Uniforms
I have a few questions about the uniform, hope you don't mind, but I had some notions that might be wrong.
The uniform you show is an M1945 uniform with the rank insignia that I always thought was just for Kuznetsov (until 1955); though Isakov was an Admiral Flota in 1944, it was not the same Admiral Flota rank as Kuznetov (who got the new rank insignia as head of the navy). Isakov was not given the new rank insignia until 1955 when the title of the rank was changed to Admiral Flota of the Soviet Union (only he, Kuznetsov,and Gorshkov held this full rank). Was Isakov actually given the new insignia between 1944 and 1955? If so, can you show any photos of him wearing an M1943 or M1945 uniform with this insignia? There is an altered photo of him on P. 169 of Kutsenkovs Marshals book; its a nice photo but the boards are artist add ons (you can still see his stars below!
If he did not get the new rank insignia until 1955, then the M1945 uniform having the rank insignia does not make sense. Or, as has happened before, I am wrong and my notions about who had the rank insignia.
DougD
Moderator-Uniforms












