Keith;
I will track back through, but I am probably an extremist liberal in that many badges were made locally. If Company 7j made badge and stopped stamping a few too late, were those last several fakes or "unissued.?" I would not hazard a guess except to say there were multiple companies locally that had the dies. They need not have stopped merely because Moscow said so, since Moscow was no longer in power. In fact, continuing to punch out Moscow trivia would be an act of rebellion. Which means, I think it would be extremely difficult to tell.
(But I trust mine!)
&
(Yeah! right!)
If you have Mekhonoshin, he said badges 7th - 11th convocation were pin back. I have documented, cased screwback with screw hole in the holder in the case for 11th Congress. Matches that beige one shown. But it has wrong number of rays and is bronze/gilt as is 12th. The case shows wear as an old badge in place. The group was acquired from Moscow in 2000 by a source to Mekhonoshin, cited in his attributions.
We here in the NV Raion cannot tell for sure what happened there then.
But, my screw plate on my 11th convocation looks amazingly like the screw plate on my 12th convocation! (They match weight, marks, etc.)
I am almost always vague about declaring a fake, but
Separately, I have another documented 11th, made at Moscow. It has the correct number of wave rays. Which means if there was only one manufacturer then the cased documented is not right? Or were there more than one manufacturer based on Moscow appointed deputy and locally elected deputy?
Since Estonia has now come west, the only real way to tell is speak to the comrades who were deputized.
I will track back through, but I am probably an extremist liberal in that many badges were made locally. If Company 7j made badge and stopped stamping a few too late, were those last several fakes or "unissued.?" I would not hazard a guess except to say there were multiple companies locally that had the dies. They need not have stopped merely because Moscow said so, since Moscow was no longer in power. In fact, continuing to punch out Moscow trivia would be an act of rebellion. Which means, I think it would be extremely difficult to tell.
(But I trust mine!)
&
(Yeah! right!)
If you have Mekhonoshin, he said badges 7th - 11th convocation were pin back. I have documented, cased screwback with screw hole in the holder in the case for 11th Congress. Matches that beige one shown. But it has wrong number of rays and is bronze/gilt as is 12th. The case shows wear as an old badge in place. The group was acquired from Moscow in 2000 by a source to Mekhonoshin, cited in his attributions.
We here in the NV Raion cannot tell for sure what happened there then.
But, my screw plate on my 11th convocation looks amazingly like the screw plate on my 12th convocation! (They match weight, marks, etc.)
I am almost always vague about declaring a fake, but
Separately, I have another documented 11th, made at Moscow. It has the correct number of wave rays. Which means if there was only one manufacturer then the cased documented is not right? Or were there more than one manufacturer based on Moscow appointed deputy and locally elected deputy?
Since Estonia has now come west, the only real way to tell is speak to the comrades who were deputized.
