01-08-2009, 07:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-08-2009, 07:47 PM by russiamilitaria.)
Hello Jim!
You have very good collection!
But I see some fakes/copies/new-made ones in your collection:
1) VDV at green. This type is real (used by "DShMG" - "desantno-shturmovie manevrennie gruppi", "десантно-штурмовые маневренные группы" - "Air Assault Manoeuvre Groups" of Border units; also such patches were worn by soldiers of Vitebsk Airborne division in 1991), but you has a copy one. Have a look at details of hammer, sickle, star etc. As it was said before by desantnik they look modern-made. Real ones VDV at green are rare.
2) All patches at green are new-made exept general Border Guard patch and "Voentorg" ("Военторг") patch (last one was not used by Border guards! It was worn at dress suites for vendors in Soviet shops of Ministry of Defense - Voentorgs). "ГО" at green (and at other colours exept khaki) was never exist in USSR, it's 100% fantasy. I think that "СССР" at green is fantasy too.
3) All patches at deep blue ("KGB blue" :) ) are new-made exept general KGB patch. "Военторг", "ГО" and "K" here are 100% fantasy ones! I think that "СССР" at deep blue is fantasy too.
4) Red ones are good, but cavalry at red is 100% fantasy! I think that patch with crossed hammers and cross at red are fantasy too. Is medical patch at maroon fabric-made or dembel-made? Embroided patches are very good! They were used by units of Honored Guards!
5) Blue - is ok, but if musical one is fabric-made it is new-made fantasy!
6) Round patches and patches of Interior troops... Can you make detail scan of these patches? Now I can tell you only that "ВВ" patch is fantasy one!
7) Patches at black. All is ok, but but if musical one is fabric-made it is new-made fantasy!
8) Other patches are good and nice! I really liked stripe-patches! You have full set of stripe-patches for Ground cadets and Air cadets!
You mentioned in this topic Colonel Alexey Stepanov's book, "Soviet Arm Badges 1920-91 (I)". It is a very good book, manual for collector of soviet patches. Author described most patches existed in USSR. Patches of 1969-91 are described at 99.99%. So all patches 1969-91 that are sold as RARE and EXCLUSIVE and that was not described at this book are 99% fake and fantasy!
You have very good collection!
But I see some fakes/copies/new-made ones in your collection:
1) VDV at green. This type is real (used by "DShMG" - "desantno-shturmovie manevrennie gruppi", "десантно-штурмовые маневренные группы" - "Air Assault Manoeuvre Groups" of Border units; also such patches were worn by soldiers of Vitebsk Airborne division in 1991), but you has a copy one. Have a look at details of hammer, sickle, star etc. As it was said before by desantnik they look modern-made. Real ones VDV at green are rare.
2) All patches at green are new-made exept general Border Guard patch and "Voentorg" ("Военторг") patch (last one was not used by Border guards! It was worn at dress suites for vendors in Soviet shops of Ministry of Defense - Voentorgs). "ГО" at green (and at other colours exept khaki) was never exist in USSR, it's 100% fantasy. I think that "СССР" at green is fantasy too.
3) All patches at deep blue ("KGB blue" :) ) are new-made exept general KGB patch. "Военторг", "ГО" and "K" here are 100% fantasy ones! I think that "СССР" at deep blue is fantasy too.
4) Red ones are good, but cavalry at red is 100% fantasy! I think that patch with crossed hammers and cross at red are fantasy too. Is medical patch at maroon fabric-made or dembel-made? Embroided patches are very good! They were used by units of Honored Guards!
5) Blue - is ok, but if musical one is fabric-made it is new-made fantasy!
6) Round patches and patches of Interior troops... Can you make detail scan of these patches? Now I can tell you only that "ВВ" patch is fantasy one!
7) Patches at black. All is ok, but but if musical one is fabric-made it is new-made fantasy!
8) Other patches are good and nice! I really liked stripe-patches! You have full set of stripe-patches for Ground cadets and Air cadets!
You mentioned in this topic Colonel Alexey Stepanov's book, "Soviet Arm Badges 1920-91 (I)". It is a very good book, manual for collector of soviet patches. Author described most patches existed in USSR. Patches of 1969-91 are described at 99.99%. So all patches 1969-91 that are sold as RARE and EXCLUSIVE and that was not described at this book are 99% fake and fantasy!
