12-04-2014, 03:48 PM
No doubt praying on the ignorance of beginners. Some people also only see what they want to see.
I've seen examples where the recipient received two or more Red Stars and sometimes multiple citations are available and the "sexiest" is always presented. I've also seen examples where someone with the same name but in a more appealing position has been used. I've seen Red Star citations from 1943. 1944, 1945, 1948 all being put together with 15 year long service Red Stars (definitely long service and not catch up due to the record card indicating the Ukaz awarding). Those just starting out may not be informed enough to realise that they are being taken for a ride.
Having the complete set of documents with all the information is the best way to know just what is what. Sometimes the citation is not enough, the full text of the Prikaz or Ukaz and record card all have to be used together.
Sort of like "I researched this Red Star by serial number and it indicates that #33##### was awarded to Ivan Ivanov (not mentioning it was awarded by Ukaz in December 1956). Here is a citation to the Heroic Ivan Ivanov for a Red Star saying he was awarded a Red Star for being a sniper in Stalingrad (not mentioning it was to another Ivan Ivanov by Prikaz in 1943). Bid with confidence!"
There are some really greedy liars out there. Have real (unappealing) items and misinformation then add a few shill bids and someone gets carried away. An unfortunate fall to reality will come with time though.
I've seen examples where the recipient received two or more Red Stars and sometimes multiple citations are available and the "sexiest" is always presented. I've also seen examples where someone with the same name but in a more appealing position has been used. I've seen Red Star citations from 1943. 1944, 1945, 1948 all being put together with 15 year long service Red Stars (definitely long service and not catch up due to the record card indicating the Ukaz awarding). Those just starting out may not be informed enough to realise that they are being taken for a ride.
Having the complete set of documents with all the information is the best way to know just what is what. Sometimes the citation is not enough, the full text of the Prikaz or Ukaz and record card all have to be used together.
Sort of like "I researched this Red Star by serial number and it indicates that #33##### was awarded to Ivan Ivanov (not mentioning it was awarded by Ukaz in December 1956). Here is a citation to the Heroic Ivan Ivanov for a Red Star saying he was awarded a Red Star for being a sniper in Stalingrad (not mentioning it was to another Ivan Ivanov by Prikaz in 1943). Bid with confidence!"
There are some really greedy liars out there. Have real (unappealing) items and misinformation then add a few shill bids and someone gets carried away. An unfortunate fall to reality will come with time though.
"Signed with his own rubber stamp"
