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Old 07-02-2008, 09:39 PM   #1
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Re: Warning: Reproductions!

Well, even though I know its been pronounced as part of Canon Law by some 'experts' that the NKVD Bottle style boards did not exist in field form (just service), I think they did (and I had a set I felt and still feel were quite genuine)...must make me a heretic to those "priests"...wonder why it bothers them so much? Hmmm...

Glad we can disagree without sounding too self-important on such a little topic. Sorry if I don't add any silly little icons.

Anyway, glad you like the Border Bottle Boards I posted.
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:58 PM   #2
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Well, even though I know its been pronounced as part of Canon Law by some 'experts' that the NKVD Bottle style boards did not exist in field form (just service), I think they did (and I had a set I felt and still feel were quite genuine)...must make me a heretic to those "priests"...wonder why it bothers them so much? Hmmm...

Glad we can disagree without sounding too self-important on such a little topic. Sorry if I don't add any silly little icons.

Anyway, glad you like the Border Bottle Boards I posted.
Who in the right mind would question existence of state security “Bottle style” field boards, when they clearly described with pictures in NKVD regulations? Those self proclaimed "experts" just jealous of you. I guess because most people never won lottery or did it once in a life time. You are on other hand hitting jackpot on regular bases. As far as border guards are concern, even naval boarder guards’ shoulder boards were supposed to be “Bottle style”. Despite the fact that nobody have seen real ones yet, photographic evidence proofs that “Bottle style” border guards’ boards were not only on paper.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:22 PM   #3
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Re: Warning: Reproductions!

I did not know that the Border Troops / Naval Border Troops were to have the bottle boards; that's interesting (even though I do not think the set shown on e-bay is close to genuine; at least they are copying real items).

As for the lottery, I guess if that is how you look at it, but I think the set I had were good and not a modern DDA style repro set. If others do not agree, or think they did not even exist, thats up to them..they spend quite a bit of time worried about what others think.

Good regulation information.
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Re: Warning: Reproductions!

Thanks for this. While it is disturbing to see the mammoth pi**ing contest that can often take place, it is always good to see evidence emerge for what some say isn't "true". All of us should be always learning, whether we like to admit to this state or not. Those who have stopped learning are simply dead.
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Re: Warning: Reproductions!

Medals 73 put it correctly!

As moderator (and thread starter), I am going to ask us to focus back on those (mostly E found) repros that are coming out of Kiev and, as Marc said, St.Pete. More seem to show up with the same seller each week.

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Re: Warning: Reproductions!

I found this old shot, circa 2000, that shows a real (and rare!) M1943 parade dress generals uniform (Engineering or Signals) on left, and a theater made reproduction on right (Rifles). Not really difficult to see the differences! The belt on the theater uniform is real, just added by me for the photo.

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I found this old shot, circa 2000, that shows a real (and rare!) M1943 parade dress generals uniform (Engineering or Signals) on left, and a theater made reproduction on right (Rifles). Not really difficult to see the differences! The belt on the theater uniform is real, just added by me for the photo.

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Mind i ask what is the reason that theater reproduction?Is it made for movie prop or museum display?
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