Any fake Mongolian stuff yet? - Page 2

lingqi · 05-29-2007, 10:30 AM

Thanks, Alexei

So in this case, I guess Russian have found the origional mould for sukebattar Order. now they use the mould to make the orders illegally, maybe the grade of silver or gold is different than origional ones, which cause the lighter weight. BTW, what is weight of authentic one?

I have got a scan of sukebattar order from a chinese forum, it looks in excellent condition, mint.
is it suspicious?

medals73 · 03-08-2008, 07:24 AM

I just got in what I believe to be a fake Order of the Red Banner of Military Valor (type 3.1, the nasty bronze pinback variety). FYI.

Send a PM and I can direct you to images and discussion.

medals73 · 02-16-2010, 07:46 AM

Fake Red Banner of Military Valor, type 3. Fake, not just pitifully low quality.

Lapa · 02-16-2010, 11:15 AM

Can you please detail what specifically makes this a fake.

Marc

Nota Bene · 02-17-2010, 07:20 PM

Yes, is it really a fake, or one of those new brass pieces?

I was recently offered a fake Virgin Lands medal - decent quality, but ugly suspension ring.

Alexei

medals73 · 02-17-2010, 08:09 PM

Yes, there are some Virgin Lands fakes about, best seen in the enamel/paint. However, they have started being issued again in a a new wave of legitimate issues, so . . . ?

The quality of the enamel, especially the rays under the white enamel, on that RBMV is so far away from the normal brass issues (ugly as they are) that they stand out. They are, I am told, being turned out in Ulanbaatar, unlike other fakes that come from the south and the north.

02-16-2010, 11:15 AM	#14
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: any fake Mongolian stuff yet?? Can you please detail what specifically makes this a fake. Marc

02-17-2010, 07:20 PM	#15
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: any fake Mongolian stuff yet?? Yes, is it really a fake, or one of those new brass pieces? I was recently offered a fake Virgin Lands medal - decent quality, but ugly suspension ring. Alexei

02-17-2010, 08:09 PM	#16
medals73 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth, most of the time Posts: 2,016	Re: any fake Mongolian stuff yet?? Yes, there are some Virgin Lands fakes about, best seen in the enamel/paint. However, they have started being issued again in a a new wave of legitimate issues, so . . . ? The quality of the enamel, especially the rays under the white enamel, on that RBMV is so far away from the normal brass issues (ugly as they are) that they stand out. They are, I am told, being turned out in Ulanbaatar, unlike other fakes that come from the south and the north.

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medals73 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth, most of the time Posts: 2,016	I just got in what I believe to be a fake Order of the Red Banner of Military Valor (type 3.1, the nasty bronze pinback variety). FYI. Send a PM and I can direct you to images and discussion.

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