Fake Orders of the Red Banner - Page 3

Alfred · 06-09-2013, 02:39 AM

Yes, normally old serial number was arased for a new one was added. But there are also duplictes were no old serial number was.

I tend to like the duplicat.

best regards
Andreas

Shocktrooper · 07-05-2013, 01:36 AM

And another one for discussion...

Thank you all for your opinion.

rocketscientist · 07-13-2013, 02:32 AM

A medal bar with two ORS and document. S/n 100k seems fake to me.
Sold with two campaign medals accompanied with home printed award documents. Bad sign... but he's getting lots of bids.
What is your opinion?

ciao
sergio

marsino · 07-13-2013, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketscientist

A medal bar with two ORS and document. S/n 100k seems fake to me.
Sold with two campaign medals accompanied with home printed award documents. Bad sign... but he's getting lots of bids.
What is your opinion?

ciao
sergio

Additionally, there are no signs of friction and contact between the two ORB.

Alfred · 07-13-2013, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketscientist

A medal bar with two ORS and document. S/n 100k seems fake to me.
Sold with two campaign medals accompanied with home printed award documents. Bad sign... but he's getting lots of bids.
What is your opinion?

ciao
sergio

Hello Sergio,

I also tend to think ORB 100K is a fake. I comared it with a serial number near by 99.2xx. and I see a lot of differences.
For example hammer and sickle in the middle.

best regards
Andreas

marsino · 07-13-2013, 06:04 PM

Even the 220XXX I do not like, but it's really impressive the level of falsification reached by them.

I also would like to know the opinion of others.

rocketscientist · 07-13-2013, 06:55 PM

Andreas, marsino, thank you for your comments. The ORB100k is more evidently a fake, but from other sources I have got indication that both of them are Baltic's productions. As marsino was saying, they are becoming extremely good in such things...in few years it will be extremely difficult to avoid being cheated by those guys, at least for the poor amateur collectors as I am...

Pobeda45 · 07-13-2013, 08:38 PM

I believe both are fake.

Alfred · 07-14-2013, 03:31 AM

Yes I had now a closer look at the second ORB. It is also a fake.

Torch and flag pin are not correct.
Mint mark is sightly different.

and so on

best regards
Andreas

rocketscientist · 07-14-2013, 05:56 AM

Well done, Andreas! Thank you.

07-13-2013, 06:04 PM	#26
marsino Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Italy Age: 58 Posts: 389	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner Even the 220XXX I do not like, but it's really impressive the level of falsification reached by them. I also would like to know the opinion of others.

07-13-2013, 06:55 PM	#27
rocketscientist Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 66	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner Andreas, marsino, thank you for your comments. The ORB100k is more evidently a fake, but from other sources I have got indication that both of them are Baltic's productions. As marsino was saying, they are becoming extremely good in such things...in few years it will be extremely difficult to avoid being cheated by those guys, at least for the poor amateur collectors as I am...

07-13-2013, 08:38 PM	#28
Pobeda45 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 605	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner I believe both are fake.

07-14-2013, 05:56 AM	#30
rocketscientist Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 66	Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner Well done, Andreas! Thank you.

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