Ushakov.

[new world]

Arnold,

1st class of Ushakov order is made of platinum and gold

2nd class is gold and silver.

William

[Dolf]

Arnold,

Just adding in detail what is said on the Shishkov and Muzalevsky book "Orders and Medals of the USSR 1918-1991" :

1st Class:

Order base:
Platinium: 25,00gr +/- 0,88gr

Disk:
Gold: 6,792gr +/- 0,238gr
Silver: 0,179gr +/- 0,006gr

Bas-relief of Ushakov:
Gold: 1,758gr +/- 0,114gr


2nd Class:

Order Base:
Gold: 25,365gr +/- 0,80gr
Silver: 0,668gr +/- 0,021gr

Bas-relief of Ushakov:
Silver: 0,999gr +/- 0,092gr



The book also gives the "precious Metal content" of the anchor + the screw + the joint-pins for both Classes, but as your question was about the star and the medallion, I hope this helps.

As you see, the info on the database of the Forum and our experts are always right! ;)

Best,

Dolf

[Nota Bene]

I would be very careful about buying such an Order. If it was stolen the Militia are probably already looking for it through the Interpol.

I have only seen original in a museum, but if you compare it with photos it is kinda crude.

Alexei

[Art]

I've seen so many fakes of the higher Orders that I would require some rock-solid provenance ( and by this I mean a handshake with the actual person it was awarded to, or their close family, and an interview ) to plunk down $60,000. If this couldn't be arranged, I would run, not walk, away from the deal. I don't know about you guys, but I've seen more fake Ushakov's than real ones.

It could be authenticated by McDaniel, Sotheby's, Christies, etc. etc..I trust no one when it comes to something of such value. Of course I would have another set of eyes take a look at it AFTER I had been satisfied that the individual and their historical relevance to the award were authentic.

Art

[Christophe]

In that case, the SN was unfortunately not disclosed... (at least to the members of the Forum!).

But we have to keep in mind they ALL have very low SN : PMD says Ushakov 1st Class has only been awarded 47 times !!
He observed SN in the range of 3 - 29 !!

But, you may be right.... may be it is an explanation... ;)

Just to let you know, as an update, that the Ushakov 1st Class #7 is not any more for sale on the website of this Dealer.

Sold ?

Has anyone any idea ?

About the Nakhimov 1st Class #107; it is still for sale on the same website.

Even if Ushakov 2nd Class is not the rarest piece, one of our favourite dealers has recently put for sale on his website a documented group of 3 decorations including Order of Ushakov 2nd Class #188, in near mint condition - 9.5 out of 10 condition rating (a real superb piece, worthy of our pics databases!!).

here is part of the seller's description :

"Issued to Hero of the Soviet Union Viktor Tikhonov, commander of a Baltic Fleet torpedo boat squadron. Comes with McDaniel authentication certificate on Ushakov.

Awards: Order of Ushakov, 2nd cl., #188, Type 1 Var. 2 (6 rivets), #188; Order of the Patriotic War, 1st cl., #142527, circa 1944; Order of the Red Star, #2878224. All three awards are in excellent condition and show nice, consistent silver patina. McDaniel certificate of authenticity on Ushakov shows extraordinary 9.5 out of 10 condition rating.

Document: order booklet, July 1943 issue. The document contains entries for the above orders and several other decorations that are not available – including the Hero Star and Order of Lenin issued with it.

Captain, 3rd cl. Viktor Tikhonov commanded 4th Squadron of the Baltic Torpedo Boat Brigade. Over the course of the war he took part in 123 combat cruises. In September 1944 he was involved in massive small craft attack (up to 130 of MTBs and similar small vessels) and naval infantry landing on Moon Sound islands. Tikhonov’s squadron was instrumental in capturing a bridgehead. His unit was also credited with sinking 10 enemy ships.

Included: Xerox copy and translation of the article about Viktor Tikhonov in the official catalog “Heroes of the Soviet Union” (contains his photo).

$18,000.00 ."

#188.
Let's appreciate the details...

Interesting to notice that this group - unsold for nearly 6 months - is now proposed at $19,000 !!

I did not think inflation could spontaneously self-generate, ex-nihilo... :eek:

Ch.

[Christophe]

William,

I in this specific case, traditional exchange / market rules obviously don't apply because of the rarity of the item.

But this increase of $1K (+ 5.5%) is, in fact, dictated by nothing rational in terms of market for the reasons already exposed by us...

The only positive point is that the actual parity $ versus € (1.25 for 1.00) is a good thing for us Europeans. :)

But do you think there could be a link between this exchange rate and the increase ? ;)

How knows ?


Sold ?
Probably, as this order disappeared from the Dealer's website...

Ch.

[Christophe]

Originally Posted by new world

Looks like this group was sold.

Also, if you check that particular dealer web site - most of top military orders are gone, except for one Khmelnitsky 3rd cl, few Nevsky orders and couple of groups...

William

William,

Correct, I noticed it... Any explanation ?

Ch.

Originally Posted by HuliganRS

Sold.

Went back to Russia with a few others...

Rusty.

Rusty,

What do you mean exactly by "Went back to Russia..." ?

Ch.

[slava1stclass]

To all:

A well-known NYC-area dealer currently has one listed for $76,000.00. Serial # 28.

Regards,

slava1stclass

[Christophe]

Just as a reminder... 2 years ago... We were talking of... $19,000 :wow

Ch.