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01-09-2008, 05:51 PM | #11 |
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William,
That's why I have asked for complete scans - most likely the original information was bleached out from the booklet and fake entries added. Alexei |
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01-11-2008, 10:02 AM | #12 |
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Colleagues,
It's official now - the awards have been added to the group. Yesterday I talked to another collector who bought this group last year and ran research. The research confirmed that some awards have been added. Best regards, William |
01-11-2008, 11:18 AM | #13 |
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Add that seller to the list of those that will never have their doorway darkened.
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01-13-2008, 01:33 AM | #14 |
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Were any notations original?
Were any of the award notations original, or had they all been bleached out and rewritten?
Also, which awards were added post-facto? Just the LS ORB, or did the research indicate that maybe a couple of those wartime-serial numbered awards also belonged to someone else? Is there any indication that photo was somehow faked/added later also? It doesn't seem to match the usual head-on "mug shot" aspect often seen in such photos. Did you get a copy of the research that the other, previous owner-collector had done on this? I think knowing a bit more about how it was done would be helpful for us all in identifying these in the future. I guess if one collector proved it was a made-up set, that information would surely have been passed to the dealer. If so, is this a case of the dealer knowingly committing a mortal sin? Like in so many legal statutes, "intent" is often a very important factor. ...Brian |
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Previous buyer is a member of this forum, he can contribute more details if he wishes. As for the seller, to sell the group with the knowledge it's not really a group - it's not just a mortal sin, it's an outright fraud! William |
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