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02-22-2004, 07:41 AM | #101 |
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hi y'awl!
Eric,Rusty
Doesn,t that mean Hello to you all in Kentuckyish? Great pics! But for such a big show only Three dealers in soviet items seems a rather small percentage so no doubt the main interest was German Orders and Medals. Sad, Sad. Are the prices really that bad? Eddie.
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02-22-2004, 12:05 PM | #102 |
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Eddie, yes, that does mean hello all in "Kentuckian".
There were only 3 delers with mostly Soviet Orders and Medals. There were quite a few folks with soviet items... Two come to mind: 1) This father-son shop of different awards including an Order of Victory that they would have sold for $350 - $400. It had one "diamond" missing. 2) this gentleman who had almost a dozen screwback pieces including screwback Lenin, several fake RBs and a RB mirror reverse with almost no enamel on it. When I asked about the Lenin screwback, he proceeded to tell me a "tear-jerking" story about how the awardee was in the NKVD and parachuted behind enemy lines to kill Germans, and was awarded the Lenin for that... The seller said, I will send you the research that I have done by mail after you buy the piece. Interestingly enough, he had "research done" for even the Kapral-looking Red Banners with a bright yellow gilt. This guy was good. The prices ARE getting quite bad... Examples: "For Bravery" = $90 "For Battlefield Merits" T1 = $90 Kutuzov3 = $2400 Suvorov3 = $1700 XX RKKA w/Doc = $800 RB mirror reverse = $485 Red Star w/rivets = $1000 Fake hand-made For Bravery = $50 ) Fake Service to Motherland 2nd class = $650 Fake Lenin screwback = $1000 etc... Eric
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02-22-2004, 12:06 PM | #103 |
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Taz,
There were only 3 dealers specializing in Soviet awards. There were a dozen or so others that ranging from a few pieces and up to a 15-20 pieces. There was groups to a HSU but the HSU stars were wearers copies! Rusty.
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02-22-2004, 12:39 PM | #104 |
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Great Pity
Eric, Rusty,
I,m sorry to hear that the prices are getting so bad and that the dealers are selling a lot of Fakes as Original. Kapral pieces of all things! Maybe we are all starting to get paranoid but with all these Fakes, Copys and Copys of Fakes I think it may be justified. Still nice to hear you all had a good time. Did anyone get any bargains at all? Eddie.
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Eddie, the Soviet major dealers do not sell fakes as real... It was the one-off little dealers who had the a bunch of different stuff and a few Soviet pieces. Just for the record. Eric
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02-22-2004, 01:51 PM | #106 |
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Wow!!!
Rusty and Eric,
I have no words for what my eyes see here, guys!!! WOW!!! Among all those fakes and copies I bet there are some/many good ones after all, right? You mention a Order of Victory for $350.00-$400.00! Can't be a real one, right? A Kapral copy or what?! Anyway, this looks like the collector's paradise... Thanks a lot for sharing with us those beauties. Dolf |
02-22-2004, 04:21 PM | #107 |
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Hello all,
I attended the show Thursday and unfortunately didn't get to meet any forum members. Also, Michael ****** was the only Soviet dealer open that day. I was shocked to count about 15 tables covered up & "closed" on Thursday. I hope Mr ****** is a reputable dealer....I dropped quite a bit of money with him. I was burned on 2 German badges. Same old thing, dealer swore the badges were real but when I posted pics on the TR forum the unanimous consensus were that they were fake. Anyone know how I can reach a dealer named Tony Caliendo or did anyone get a contact list of OVMS members? Live & learn!! David (wheats101) |
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If Tony is who I think he is, then you may find him at the Hillside Militaria Show in Illinois. I do not have his info, but I did purchase a few things from him. He was at the SoS but he only had a 2-million number Red Star for $30 or $40. Maybe he is your guy. Eric
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02-22-2004, 04:37 PM | #109 |
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Thanks for the info. When & where is that show?
I almost bought a Red Star (#4381 and virtually mint) from ******. He was asking $400 but came down a little. Did you guys see it? What do you think about the price? David |
02-22-2004, 05:14 PM | #110 |
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David,
$400 is a fair price.
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