Fake Labour Medals - Page 12

Alfred · 08-02-2010, 12:31 PM

Hello,

a friend visit me and we looked at my collection. We opened the box with questionable and fake items and found this labor medal with serial number.

What do you think about it? Reverse looks as it is was sandblasted before the number was cut in. The medal is a little bit thinner in thickness than other labor medals.

The letters "T" on the front side look right for a medal with serial number.

Thanks and best regards
Andreas

Alfred · 08-02-2010, 12:32 PM

and another picture

deValcourt · 08-02-2010, 09:08 PM

Andreas,

You are right about the suspicious looking worn "№" compared to the serial number itself.:weird It makes me wonder about the genuineness.

Phillip

***desantnik*** · 08-02-2010, 09:56 PM

I like it. The ring, enamel, and engraving look standard for the early issue.

Unlike the early BM and CSMs, the "No" was struck as part of the medal, NOT engraved or applied afterwards. If you ever see an engraved "No" on one of the s/n'd labor medals it's definitely bad.

The reverse does appear to be a little less pronounced or sanded which can indicate a casting, but due to the spot-on features I'm pretty sure it's good without physically examining it.

Lapa · 08-04-2010, 06:07 AM

Andreas,

It looks good to me too. By the way, there are examples on which the "N" is barely visible, simply due to wear of the die.

Marc

EricFG · 08-04-2010, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lapa

By the way, there are examples on which the "N" is barely visible, simply due to wear of the die.

Thanks for mentioning that, that was what was confusing me. :)

deValcourt · 08-04-2010, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lapa

Andreas,

It looks good to me too. By the way, there are examples on which the "N" is barely visible, simply due to wear of the die.

Marc

Do you know how long it took me to find the right "№" font? I had to make some kind of statement after that.:D

Just kidding. Thanks to both Marc and Paul for reminding me that there are legitimate reasons for wear - and I didn't know that at all about the die itself wearing out and still being used.:thumbsup

Phillip

Alfred · 10-03-2010, 03:56 AM

Just to be sure, what do you think about this medal?

According to the very high serial number (75.339) this must be one of the last awarded numbers.

Many thanks
Andreas

deValcourt · 10-03-2010, 04:22 AM

The "pitting" of the silver looks natural as does the smoother areas that would have been easier to polish all those years. It's interesting more so because of the high serial number. If someone were going to fake one, it would seem more logical to go with a safer, less suspect serial number.

Phillip

Lapa · 10-03-2010, 04:33 AM

Andreas,

The surface looks a bit strange IMO. Has it been refinished?
On the other hand, the handwriting seems to be OK.

Marc

08-02-2010, 09:08 PM	#113
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Fake Medals for Valiant and Distinguished Labor Andreas, You are right about the suspicious looking worn "№" compared to the serial number itself.:weird It makes me wonder about the genuineness. Phillip __________________ Phillip

08-02-2010, 09:56 PM	#114
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,341	Re: Fake Medals for Valiant and Distinguished Labor I like it. The ring, enamel, and engraving look standard for the early issue. Unlike the early BM and CSMs, the "No" was struck as part of the medal, NOT engraved or applied afterwards. If you ever see an engraved "No" on one of the s/n'd labor medals it's definitely bad. The reverse does appear to be a little less pronounced or sanded which can indicate a casting, but due to the spot-on features I'm pretty sure it's good without physically examining it.

08-04-2010, 06:07 AM	#115
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake Medals for Valiant and Distinguished Labor Andreas, It looks good to me too. By the way, there are examples on which the "N" is barely visible, simply due to wear of the die. Marc

10-03-2010, 04:22 AM	#119
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Fake Medals for Valiant and Distinguished Labor The "pitting" of the silver looks natural as does the smoother areas that would have been easier to polish all those years. It's interesting more so because of the high serial number. If someone were going to fake one, it would seem more logical to go with a safer, less suspect serial number. Phillip __________________ Phillip

10-03-2010, 04:33 AM	#120
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Fake Medals for Valiant and Distinguished Labor Andreas, The surface looks a bit strange IMO. Has it been refinished? On the other hand, the handwriting seems to be OK. Marc

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