Red Banner Of Labour. - Page 14

Tommy · 12-24-2012, 07:43 AM

Do you have the award book too?

RBoL 272xxx wouldn't have been made until after 1951 and before 1954 looking at the production lists. Isn't this a large gap between a Ukaz dated 1950 and an award not minted until maybe a few years after?

Or am i mistaken?

Is there anything to tie this Serial Number to this Ukaz?

kiwiussr · 12-24-2012, 08:36 AM

No booklet order just came with the document which is genuine, maybe the award was issued after the certificate was, my knowledge on labour awards is limited, just thought it was an interesting document. it was brought from a good dealer who I have used often over the years and never had any issues

RedMaestro2 · 12-24-2012, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwiussr

No booklet order just came with the document which is genuine, maybe the award was issued after the certificate was, my knowledge on labour awards is limited, just thought it was an interesting document. it was brought from a good dealer who I have used often over the years and never had any issues

Kiwi, without the order book there is unfortunately no proof of any sort that this order and document are connected. Also, Tommy's observation about the serial number range is spot on. I agree it's an interesting document, but again, it's not a group.

***CtahhR*** · 02-06-2013, 08:55 AM

Order "Red Banner Of Labour" #160718, a Type 4.

Tommy · 02-06-2013, 09:46 AM

Today's new arrivals.

Red Banner of Labor 829174 T6V2

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Tommy · 02-06-2013, 09:49 AM

And Red Banner of Labor 518135 T6V2

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ssln · 03-27-2013, 01:47 PM

Order of the Red Banner Of Labour, duplicate issue, interesting hand-carved Mint mark.

Lapa · 03-27-2013, 02:22 PM

Ssln,

I have never seen a duplicate with a hand engraved mintmark... The strangest thing here is that the mintmark was engraved by a different hand than the SN.

Also, the red enamel was replaced.

Marc

ssln · 03-27-2013, 04:13 PM

hello Marc

I think the red enamel is original.

More pics

***CtahhR*** · 03-27-2013, 06:52 PM

The CCCP does look unusually pronounced from the field of red enamel to me. I'm not sure if it is due to camera angles or production techniques but it does seem noticeable.

12-24-2012, 07:43 AM	#131
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Red Banner Of Labour. Do you have the award book too? RBoL 272xxx wouldn't have been made until after 1951 and before 1954 looking at the production lists. Isn't this a large gap between a Ukaz dated 1950 and an award not minted until maybe a few years after? Or am i mistaken? Is there anything to tie this Serial Number to this Ukaz?

12-24-2012, 08:36 AM	#132
kiwiussr Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: UAE Age: 58 Posts: 97	Re: Red Banner Of Labour. No booklet order just came with the document which is genuine, maybe the award was issued after the certificate was, my knowledge on labour awards is limited, just thought it was an interesting document. it was brought from a good dealer who I have used often over the years and never had any issues

02-06-2013, 09:46 AM	#135
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Red Banner Of Labour. Today's new arrivals. Red Banner of Labor 829174 T6V2 20130206_143841.jpg 20130206_143925.jpg 20130206_144007.jpg

02-06-2013, 09:49 AM	#136
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Red Banner Of Labour. And Red Banner of Labor 518135 T6V2 20130206_144024.jpg 20130206_144046.jpg

03-27-2013, 02:22 PM	#138
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Red Banner Of Labour. Ssln, I have never seen a duplicate with a hand engraved mintmark... The strangest thing here is that the mintmark was engraved by a different hand than the SN. Also, the red enamel was replaced. Marc

03-27-2013, 06:52 PM	#140
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Red Banner Of Labour. The CCCP does look unusually pronounced from the field of red enamel to me. I'm not sure if it is due to camera angles or production techniques but it does seem noticeable. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

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