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CheckmateKing2 · 10-21-2009, 03:04 PM

I was trying to add my Serial number to the database and it said I did not have that privilege, any help please.
It is a type six variation two with engraved serial number 409753.

I was hoping someone could identify the insignia that came with my Order, it looks to be a screwback badge of some kind?

This is a scan of my Order and another screwback badge that came with it. I need help identifying it, I believe it to be a rank badge of some sort. I am pretty sure my order is a type 6 variation 2, serial number 409753, I would love to know more about this Order, approximate issue date etc. Please feel free to comment or leave feedback.

EricFG · 10-26-2009, 11:13 AM

Hello and welcome!
I believe the badge is a Yugoslavian officer's cap badge, communist era.
The Lenin was probably awarded in the early to mid 70s.
Search here for "Echoes Of War' for more info about an excellent book that supplies serial numbers and dates for various Soviet wards.

CheckmateKing2 · 10-26-2009, 11:17 AM

My friend is from Italy and his father was some sort of Diplomat to an Eastern Bloc country, he bought the order, the badge, and the officers belt buckle for 20 dollars. He was sitting next to him on a train after the failed Coup in Moscow. He gave it to me knowing I love militaria and he didn't really care about it being a very wealthy person.

Edit, I found the cap badge, thanks. It is a Yugoslavian generals badge, so since I have the buckle the badge and the order with documented sources can I assume the Order was awarded to a Yugoslavian General and that is who he purchased it from?

latinmajorac · 10-26-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CheckmateKing2

My friend is from Italy and his father was some sort of Diplomat to an Eastern Bloc country, he bought the order, the badge, and the officers belt buckle for 20 dollars. He was sitting next to him on a train after the failed Coup in Moscow. He gave it to me knowing I love militaria and he didn't really care about it being a very wealthy person.

Edit, I found the cap badge, thanks. It is a Yugoslavian generals badge, so since I have the buckle the badge and the order with documented sources can I assume the Order was awarded to a Yugoslavian General and that is who he purchased it from?

pretty cool story! unique history. you should definitely have the order researched, talk to Nota Bene and see what he can do

Lapa · 10-26-2009, 11:58 AM

CheckMateKing,

Your badge is a Yugoslavian general cap badge.

Marc

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckmateKing2

It is a Yugoslavian generals badge, so since I have the buckle the badge and the order with documented sources can I assume the Order was awarded to a Yugoslavian General and that is who he purchased it from?

CheckMateKing,

You can assume anything you want, it's a free world after all ;)
Seriously, I'd say that there is a possibility that it is so, but unless you order research on your OL AND it comes back researchable, you can't tell for sure.

Marc

CheckmateKing2 · 10-26-2009, 12:34 PM

How do I proceed to get the research done? I am willing to take whatever steps necessary. If it was awarded to a Yugoslavian general would this be rare or run of the mill?

EricFG · 10-26-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheckmateKing2

It is a Yugoslavian generals badge, so since I have the buckle the badge and the order with documented sources can I assume the Order was awarded to a Yugoslavian General and that is who he purchased it from?

That would be quite a stretch actually. There's a saying in the medals field; "buy the item, not the story", or something similar.
The Order of Lenin is quite prestigeous anyhow.

CheckmateKing2 · 10-26-2009, 12:51 PM

I understand what your saying, but my friend guarateed me the Order, the Badge and the Belt all came from the same Officer, would it be a stretch for a Yugoslavian general to be awarded the Lenin?

This is my first foray into Soviet militaria, I usually only collect WW2 German. This just kind of fell into my lap and I wanted to educate myself. I appreciate all of your replies.

EricFG · 10-26-2009, 01:16 PM

I can't say for sure but I'd guess the answer would be "yes, it's a stretch". But there are other here much more knowledgeable than I, including another good ol' Louisiana boy who should be on later this evening. :)

Nota Bene · 10-26-2009, 05:19 PM

This Lenin has been produced in 1970 by the Leningrad Mint.

Alexei

10-26-2009, 11:13 AM	#172
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: My Order of Lenin Hello and welcome! I believe the badge is a Yugoslavian officer's cap badge, communist era. The Lenin was probably awarded in the early to mid 70s. Search here for "Echoes Of War' for more info about an excellent book that supplies serial numbers and dates for various Soviet wards. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

10-26-2009, 11:17 AM	#173
CheckmateKing2 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Age: 42 Posts: 6	Re: My Order of Lenin My friend is from Italy and his father was some sort of Diplomat to an Eastern Bloc country, he bought the order, the badge, and the officers belt buckle for 20 dollars. He was sitting next to him on a train after the failed Coup in Moscow. He gave it to me knowing I love militaria and he didn't really care about it being a very wealthy person. Edit, I found the cap badge, thanks. It is a Yugoslavian generals badge, so since I have the buckle the badge and the order with documented sources can I assume the Order was awarded to a Yugoslavian General and that is who he purchased it from? Last edited by CheckmateKing2; 10-26-2009 at 11:20 AM.

10-26-2009, 12:34 PM	#176
CheckmateKing2 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Age: 42 Posts: 6	Re: My Order of Lenin How do I proceed to get the research done? I am willing to take whatever steps necessary. If it was awarded to a Yugoslavian general would this be rare or run of the mill?

10-26-2009, 12:51 PM	#178
CheckmateKing2 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Age: 42 Posts: 6	Re: My Order of Lenin I understand what your saying, but my friend guarateed me the Order, the Badge and the Belt all came from the same Officer, would it be a stretch for a Yugoslavian general to be awarded the Lenin? This is my first foray into Soviet militaria, I usually only collect WW2 German. This just kind of fell into my lap and I wanted to educate myself. I appreciate all of your replies. Last edited by CheckmateKing2; 10-26-2009 at 12:53 PM.

10-26-2009, 01:16 PM	#179
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: My Order of Lenin I can't say for sure but I'd guess the answer would be "yes, it's a stretch". But there are other here much more knowledgeable than I, including another good ol' Louisiana boy who should be on later this evening. :) __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

10-26-2009, 05:19 PM	#180
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: My Order of Lenin This Lenin has been produced in 1970 by the Leningrad Mint. Alexei

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