Screwplates - Page 2

EricFG · 10-25-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by medals73

Do we assume that screwplates (when the threading was the same) were eternally "wedded" to a single award?

We certainly hope they were. I put them in the same catagory as five-sided suspensions; when we get, let us say, a Defense of Stalingrad medal we are, or should be much happier when we find it comes with a two-piece steel suspension as opposed to the generic aluminium suspension with their obligitory new ribbons. To me a new suspension and ribbon is incongruous when attached to an original medal. Same with screwplates. Two-piece suspensions are easy to see; variations of screwplates have not been looked at in any depth. Yet.

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Given the bags of orphaned screwplates I have seen in Ulaanbaatar, I am left wondering how separable they were.

Yeah, I know, I see them on ebay as well. Gives me a chill when I see them. One part of me says they are just manufacuter's overruns. The other part thinks that too many orders have been scrapped for silver and gold content and all that remains are the screwplates. :(

Lapa · 10-26-2012, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EricFG

...Yeah, I know, I see them on ebay as well. Gives me a chill when I see them. One part of me says they are just manufacuter's overruns. The other part thinks that too many orders have been scrapped for silver and gold content and all that remains are the screwplates. :(

Eric,

I am afraid that only your second assumption is true :(

Marc

EricFG · 10-26-2012, 09:18 PM

When I get some time I will take out all my 40's screwbacks and photograph them with their screwplates. If other want to do that as well maybe we can start a thread about them and invite Marc and Paul and some of our Russian experts to opine on dating them?

marsino · 10-27-2012, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by EricFG

When I get some time I will take out all my 40's screwbacks and photograph them with their screwplates. If other want to do that as well maybe we can start a thread about them and invite Marc and Paul and some of our Russian experts to opine on dating them?

It would be great, this is becoming for me a topic of great interest and importance.

EricFG · 10-27-2012, 12:57 PM

Here's three of mine.

EricFG · 10-27-2012, 12:59 PM

And three more. The ORB plate has a real nice patina to it making me hope it is: A) original and B) silver.

EricFG · 10-27-2012, 08:15 PM

The first two in the second set are different from the others and both have the dimples on the reverse of the plate making them......I don't know what. Earlier maybe? A different factory?
In any event it looks like just me and you, Il mio amico, have any interest. Do you have any of these non-standard plates in your collection?

Lapa · 10-28-2012, 04:30 AM

Eric,

It is not lack of interest, but the quasi-impossibility to acertain for sure that the order and the screwplate were originally "joined for better and for worst" at MD.

Marc

marsino · 10-28-2012, 05:54 AM

Yes, it's very difficult dating them ... But at least we can make a database of their diversity.

OPW2
n° 293662-1945
n° 451981-1944
n° 827997- ?

marsino · 10-28-2012, 06:04 AM

RS
n°68941-1942
n°113489-1943

10-26-2012, 09:18 PM	#3
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Dating Screwplates When I get some time I will take out all my 40's screwbacks and photograph them with their screwplates. If other want to do that as well maybe we can start a thread about them and invite Marc and Paul and some of our Russian experts to opine on dating them? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

10-27-2012, 08:15 PM	#7
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Dating Screwplates The first two in the second set are different from the others and both have the dimples on the reverse of the plate making them......I don't know what. Earlier maybe? A different factory? In any event it looks like just me and you, Il mio amico, have any interest. Do you have any of these non-standard plates in your collection? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

10-28-2012, 04:30 AM	#8
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Dating Screwplates Eric, It is not lack of interest, but the quasi-impossibility to acertain for sure that the order and the screwplate were originally "joined for better and for worst" at MD. Marc

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