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01-03-2010, 07:30 PM | #11 |
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Unresearchable Awards List
This thread is for posting military awards that are either completely or partially unresearchable. When contributing, please be sure to include the award name, serial number, and how research was attempted (by name or serial number). If any other information can be provided, please include.
Example: Combat Merit Medal, 630829, name If partial research was found, please include some information about the award. Example: Order of the Patriotic War 2nd Class, 737851, name, Black Sea Fleet 8.4.45 Please feel free to add more than the minimum information. I will sort all of the data into a list. Any suggestions for improvements to the formatting are greatly appreciated! Hopefully this project will reveal interesting patterns, as have been discovered with researched awards. Thanks, Alex Order of Kutuzov 2nd Class 2985, serial number Order of the Great Patriotic War 2nd Class 737851, name, Black Sea Fleet 8.4.45 Order for Service to the Homeland 3rd class 98116, serial number Combat Merit Medal 630829, name, 15 Railways Brigade 15.10.43 Last edited by RedMaestro2; 08-09-2010 at 10:15 PM. Reason: updates |
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01-04-2010, 04:40 AM | #12 |
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Unresearchable Awards List
Kutusov 2nd class - s/n: 2.985 - unresearchable - no award book
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05-14-2010, 02:24 PM | #13 | |
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Re: Unresearchable Awards List
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Please clarify "unresearchable" award. If Soviet Order or Medal has serial number it can be researched with 99.9% from Russian military Archives, i.e. it is possible to find name of awardee, description of the heroic deed, other related information. Of course all this information is paid. Regards, Sergey |
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07-04-2010, 01:47 PM | #14 |
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Re: Unresearchable Awards List
I have just got a ORB, ORS group done and all that could be found was his record card, but no information on the awards.
please find record card. It is interesting that his nationality is stated as "Jew" cheers kiwi Document pertaining to A. Information card Order Booklet No 931730 1. Last name : Smotrich 2. Name and patronymic: Leonid Borisovich 3. Rank: Captain 4. Sex: Male 5. Birth year: 1897 6. Birth place: Dnepropetrovsh Region, Pavlograd 7. Party membership: Communist party member since 1945 8. Education: Higher education 9. Nationality: Jew 10. Joined red army: January 1918 – April 1923; July 1941 – December 1945 11. Place of service and duty position at time of awarding: Military Garrison of Tbilisi Tribunal, Clerk of Court 12. Place of service at current time: Kiev Region college of Advocates, Lawyer 13. Home address: Kyiv, 59 Lenin Street, Apt # 4 14. Awards Name Number Awarded Red Star 1.046.397 30.05.1945 Red Banner 269.123 06.11.1945 Defence of Caucus 31.12.1944 Victory against Germany 09.05.1945 |
07-04-2010, 02:55 PM | #15 |
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Re: Unresearchable Awards List
At first I was enthusiastic about such a list, but I'm more and more getting the impression that more often than not "unresearchable" says more about the researcher than the archive. I have used five different researchers over the years, and most of them have been able to find documents that others couldn't and the other way around. So several awards that I and one of my researchers considered to be "unresearchable" were researched by another researcher without any problems (and I'm not talking about Navy / MVD / KGB etc. research but simple TsAMO research).
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07-05-2010, 04:26 AM | #16 |
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Re: Unresearchable Awards List
hi Auke
thanks for the comments thuis is the first of about ten groups I have had researched by the same person that didnt come up with the award sheet. maybe you could pm me some one you think could help with the research of the awards regards kiwi |
07-05-2010, 05:31 AM | #17 |
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Re: Unresearchable Awards List
I'll PM you. But don't forget that there are of course always cases when there's no award sheet available.
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08-04-2010, 11:07 PM | #18 |
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Re: Unresearchable Awards List
Order for Service to the Homeland in the armed forces of the USSR 3rd class (98116) (3 tries on research by former owner and 1 try by me... unresearcheable at this time. Is issued award.)
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10-06-2010, 01:31 PM | #19 |
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Re: Unresearchable Awards List
No luck in TSAMO for RS 3701678. :confused:
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08-27-2011, 09:33 AM | #20 |
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Re: Unresearchable Awards List
RS 3806751 is :thumbsdown after 2 researchers but trying with a third.
Have one RS, Stalingrad doctor, all research was found but not the citation. Tried another researcher and he found it. I wonder if these guys just give up too easy. |
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