Orders of the Great Men - Page 2

***CtahhR*** · 02-16-2012, 03:10 PM

I forgot Albania's Skanderberg.

With the certain personalities and cults surrounding them it is quite surprising there was never ones made for Enver, Leonid and Mr & Mrs Nikolai.

If I'm looking at this through the right pair of glasses only the Great Leader Kim had an Order created during their lifetime.

I suppose the Order "Brezhnev" would be a five pointed Hero Star made out of Hero Stars with an Order "Victory" in the middle.

Who needs flak jackets when your chest is more metal than tunic?

Christophe · 02-16-2012, 03:17 PM

And don't forget the famous project of the Order of Stalin (not the Umalatova one...).

Ch.

Esteban_cool · 02-16-2012, 03:29 PM

And Klement Gottwald...

***CtahhR*** · 02-16-2012, 03:30 PM

Most of these "personal" Communist Orders are very much attached to Hero Titles with the exception of the Order Of Kim Il-Sung which is supposed to be something akin to the Order "Victory" (or at least Brezhnev's) - an Order higher than everything else and not connected to any other awards.

Comparing awards of different communist nations can be extremely difficult and subject to speculation.

USSR-PRB easy.
DPRK-CSSR oh dear.

medals73 · 02-16-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CtahhR

I forgot Albania's Skanderberg.

Yes. Somehow one of those has never come to live with me.

medals73 · 02-16-2012, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christophe

And don't forget the famous project of the Order of Stalin (not the Umalatova one...).

Ch.

Worthy of a footnote, but since it never happened . . . .

***CtahhR*** · 02-16-2012, 03:51 PM

The Post-43 Soviet Russian revival is quite an obvious influence on the Bulgarian Orders "For People's Liberty 1941-1944" and "9.IX.1944" but they just depict Botev and Levski rather than actually taking their names from them. Are there other Orders with "National Heroes" on them but retaining an unrelated name?

It can also be noted that on the Bulgarian Order "Aleksandr Nevskij" there was no depiction of him. This Order being a communist "rethink" of the name of the Imperial Order "Saint Aleksandr". Not a similar reason for omission of a portrait as with the Afghan Order.

Botev did make State Prize though.

charlet · 02-16-2012, 04:47 PM

do not forget Kliement Gotwald:

medals73 · 02-16-2012, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlet

do not forget Kliement Gotwald:

Thanks, another one I forgot!!

And a LOVELY one too!

Bob · 02-18-2012, 11:29 AM

Difficult to find, but one of the orders from Turkmenistan picturing Saparmurat Niyazov (aka Turkmenbashi).

I did manage to pick up a book depicting all orders/medals while travelling in Turkmenistan a few years ago

02-16-2012, 03:10 PM	#11
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Orders of the Great Men I forgot Albania's Skanderberg. With the certain personalities and cults surrounding them it is quite surprising there was never ones made for Enver, Leonid and Mr & Mrs Nikolai. If I'm looking at this through the right pair of glasses only the Great Leader Kim had an Order created during their lifetime. I suppose the Order "Brezhnev" would be a five pointed Hero Star made out of Hero Stars with an Order "Victory" in the middle. Who needs flak jackets when your chest is more metal than tunic? __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

02-16-2012, 03:29 PM	#13
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 37 Posts: 1,103	Re: Orders of the Great Men And Klement Gottwald... __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

02-16-2012, 03:30 PM	#14
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Orders of the Great Men Most of these "personal" Communist Orders are very much attached to Hero Titles with the exception of the Order Of Kim Il-Sung which is supposed to be something akin to the Order "Victory" (or at least Brezhnev's) - an Order higher than everything else and not connected to any other awards. Comparing awards of different communist nations can be extremely difficult and subject to speculation. USSR-PRB easy. DPRK-CSSR oh dear. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

02-16-2012, 03:51 PM	#17
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Orders of the Great Men The Post-43 Soviet Russian revival is quite an obvious influence on the Bulgarian Orders "For People's Liberty 1941-1944" and "9.IX.1944" but they just depict Botev and Levski rather than actually taking their names from them. Are there other Orders with "National Heroes" on them but retaining an unrelated name? It can also be noted that on the Bulgarian Order "Aleksandr Nevskij" there was no depiction of him. This Order being a communist "rethink" of the name of the Imperial Order "Saint Aleksandr". Not a similar reason for omission of a portrait as with the Afghan Order. Botev did make State Prize though. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

02-18-2012, 11:29 AM	#20
Bob Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 335	Re: Orders of the Great Men Difficult to find, but one of the orders from Turkmenistan picturing Saparmurat Niyazov (aka Turkmenbashi). I did manage to pick up a book depicting all orders/medals while travelling in Turkmenistan a few years ago

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