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Old 10-21-2014, 04:09 PM   #211
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star

Yes, and yes, the mint mark is indicative the example shown, 7528, is a reproduction, in my opinion. For comparison here is 7315 from the collection, also note the differences in the color and quality of the enamel work, albeit the enamel of the top ray has been replaced, as well as the shape of the star itself.
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Old 10-21-2014, 06:19 PM   #212
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The base piece is original (originally with a late 1 mil / early 2 mil serial number I think), but the reverse has obviously been sanded down and fitted with a bogus serial number and mint mark.
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star

I don't know why. I suppose if someone wants something to play with, these paper bits will do the job.
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I don't know why. I suppose if someone wants something to play with, these paper bits will do the job.
But what is this crap? :weird
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Paper awards. Worst of all not even rice paper awards. Why anyone would produce them is well beyond me but someone here in England did some years ago.
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Paper awards. Worst of all not even rice paper awards. Why anyone would produce them is well beyond me but someone here in England did some years ago.
I seemed to metal sheet, and also with a certain thickness.
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I would fix a screwpost to the Red Star and send it to Alexei for authentication :laff

another one for discussion. Generally it looks ok, but the reverse seems to be grinded in some way !?

Any ideas ?
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another one for discussion. Generally it looks ok, but the reverse seems to be grinded in some way !?

Any ideas ?
Yes, 100% altered.
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Star

Hello Paul,

thank you very much for your help. So you mean that the number was altered / has been changed ? I also posted the order of Nevskij belonging to this "group" - could you please also leave your feedback there ...?

With kind regards !!!
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Hello Paul,

thank you very much for your help. So you mean that the number was altered / has been changed ? I also posted the order of Nevskij belonging to this "group" - could you please also leave your feedback there ...?

With kind regards !!!
The serial number has been intentionally (and crudely) altered to deceive.

This was done to either assemble a grouping from unrelated items or add a piece to an otherwise legitimate, existing grouping to replace a missing item. Pls provide a link to your Nevsky posting.
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