Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards And Documents. - Page 22

EricFG · 07-22-2006, 01:19 PM

There's so many variables to take into account, the greatest being, in my uninformed opinion, the amount of current applied.
As I recall I got a spare transformer from a leftover bin at a pawnshop for a few bucks. I needed a X* volt converter to do the job and I remember that I found a U, V, W, Y and Z volt converter before I found the X one. So maybe more juice is better? Or less? Who knows....
Regardless, I think that procedure would be harmfull to tha base metal of the medal anyway

* X being a low number, like 3 for instance.

Mozzabloke · 07-23-2006, 01:21 PM

Thanks for the ideas guys. Not sure how Im going to proceed yet but will let you know how It goes when I do.

Mark

sovvisor · 07-23-2006, 01:32 PM

getting another 3rd class?

Mozzabloke · 07-23-2006, 02:21 PM

Your right it would be easier to get another 3rd class but Im not very good at doing things the easy way!

Before I do anything though I will probably research it as a 3rd class in case it was done by the veteran and it turns out he was awarded two 3rd classes although it's unlikely.

Mark

Alfred · 07-23-2006, 03:28 PM

Mark,

in most cases the gold plating is not very strong. To remove it just polisch
the area with tooth paste and a brush.
Years ago, I also bought a 3rd class glory with high serial number and gold
plating. I polished the gold away.

regards
Andreas

EricFG · 07-23-2006, 03:44 PM

Don't forget to dismount the ribbon and suspension first!

Mozzabloke · 07-25-2006, 02:13 PM

I decided to go with the tootbrush and toothpaste option because it was the easiest and least drastic of the offered soloutions and amazingly the gold came away really easily with very little scrubbing!

I have lost the patina off the front but I think its a good trade off for losing the fake gold plating.

Thanks to everyone who offered advice particularly Andreas!

Mark

redmedals · 07-26-2006, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mozzabloke

I decided to go with the tootbrush and toothpaste option because it was the easiest and least drastic of the offered soloutions and amazingly the gold came away really easily with very little scrubbing!

I have lost the patina off the front but I think its a good trade off for losing the fake gold plating.

Thanks to everyone who offered advice particularly Andreas!

Mark

Hi Mark,
Losing the patina is not that big a deal trust me it will return in a few months without you even trying. Silver does this by itself whether we like it or not.

Ron

Alfred · 09-14-2006, 04:03 PM

Hello,

has anybody an idea or experience how to remove fake blue enamel from an
Oder of Labour Glory 2nd class to restore it to an original 3rd class?

regards
Andreas

Lapa · 09-15-2006, 02:58 AM

Andreas,

Is that hot or cold enamel?

Marc

View Poll Results: Repair or not
Leave the damn thing alone! Don't mess with what looks like a period repair	12	54.55%
Have the solder removed to make the serial number readable	9	40.91%
Repair the enamel only	0	0%
Remove the solder AND repair the enamel	1	4.55%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

07-22-2006, 01:19 PM	#211
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	There's so many variables to take into account, the greatest being, in my uninformed opinion, the amount of current applied. As I recall I got a spare transformer from a leftover bin at a pawnshop for a few bucks. I needed a X* volt converter to do the job and I remember that I found a U, V, W, Y and Z volt converter before I found the X one. So maybe more juice is better? Or less? Who knows.... Regardless, I think that procedure would be harmfull to tha base metal of the medal anyway * X being a low number, like 3 for instance. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

07-23-2006, 01:32 PM	#213
sovvisor Bearer of the Red Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Uppsala Swden Age: 49 Posts: 229	what about getting another 3rd class? __________________ sovvisor

07-23-2006, 03:44 PM	#216
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Don't forget to dismount the ribbon and suspension first! __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

07-25-2006, 02:13 PM	#217
Mozzabloke Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sheffield, England Age: 49 Posts: 104	It worked! I decided to go with the tootbrush and toothpaste option because it was the easiest and least drastic of the offered soloutions and amazingly the gold came away really easily with very little scrubbing! I have lost the patina off the front but I think its a good trade off for losing the fake gold plating. Thanks to everyone who offered advice particularly Andreas! Mark

07-23-2006, 01:21 PM	#212
Mozzabloke Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sheffield, England Age: 49 Posts: 104	Thanks for the ideas guys. Not sure how Im going to proceed yet but will let you know how It goes when I do. Mark

07-23-2006, 02:21 PM	#214
Mozzabloke Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sheffield, England Age: 49 Posts: 104	Your right it would be easier to get another 3rd class but Im not very good at doing things the easy way! Before I do anything though I will probably research it as a 3rd class in case it was done by the veteran and it turns out he was awarded two 3rd classes although it's unlikely. Mark

07-23-2006, 03:28 PM	#215
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Mark, in most cases the gold plating is not very strong. To remove it just polisch the area with tooth paste and a brush. Years ago, I also bought a 3rd class glory with high serial number and gold plating. I polished the gold away. regards Andreas

09-14-2006, 04:03 PM	#219
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	How to remove bad enamel Hello, has anybody an idea or experience how to remove fake blue enamel from an Oder of Labour Glory 2nd class to restore it to an original 3rd class? regards Andreas

09-15-2006, 02:58 AM	#220
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Andreas, Is that hot or cold enamel? Marc

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