Red Banner. - Page 23

matteti · 03-08-2007, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefflgarrison

So is there a significance to so many ORB's being given around the time of December 30, 1956?

Yes, this was one of the dates of mass attribution for long service (20 years and 30 years in the case of the Red Banner).

jefflgarrison · 03-08-2007, 12:49 PM

I guess it sucked big time when they came out with the "Irreproachable Service" medals instead of these babys.

Dave · 03-08-2007, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefflgarrison

So is there a significance to so many ORB's being given around the time of December 30, 1956?

I actually really got a seller angry with me at the Show of Shows. He had a Red Star issued on 30 December 1956 and he insisted that it was a "catch up" award for actions against US forces in Korea. I bet him $500 that it was a long service award and he basically told me in some not-so-kind words that he wasn't interested in dealing with people like me. :D

A good rule of thumb: If an award was issued on 30 December 1956, it was for long service. :thumbsup

Dave

tanja76 · 08-15-2007, 09:25 AM

That is my first entry in this forum.
A Order of the Red Banner with a strange number is in my collection.
Until now, I believed the Number 112716.
After exact, it looks at, I now have see another number.
This number is 1127 / 6?!
And there is still the Russian letter D.

What does it mean?:)

EricFG · 08-15-2007, 12:04 PM

Hello Tanja76, welcome to the forum.
Your image was a bit dark so I took the liberty of brightening it to make it easier to see the details. I hope you don't mind.

The Cyrillic "D" stands for duplicate. That means it was an official reissue of a lost or stolen award.
As for the number I have no answers but I'm sure someone here will help.

***desantnik*** · 08-16-2007, 06:57 PM

I'm not so sure in this case the "D" stands for "Dublikat". Since it is upside down, it more resembles a maker's mark - a quality control stamp from a mint worker.

As to the s/n - good question. The "/" could be a "1" done by a different hand, or by the same guy that got distracted or lazy.

Another possibility, though very remote is this award was the recipient's sixth awarding and this was a way to indicate it. However the mint engraver probably wouldn't know this unless it was something like a Victory Parade or some other kind of special awarding.

My best guess is that it is actually 112.716 and maybe the engraver ran out of room on the final "1" to put in the lead "tail" event on the first two "1"s.

Dat Nguyen · 09-07-2007, 01:31 AM

Hello to ALL,

I am the lucky owner of this Red Banner. Just received some research material back and I would like to share it with the members of this forum:

CPT M a r k o v Mikheal Ivanovich
Born 1910
Russian
Unit: Komissar Battalion 1288 S.P. (if anyone know what SP or what this unit did, please let me know)
Order issue date 21 DEC 41
The citation was signed by a LTG of the 33rd Army

The hand writing was difficult to read by my translator. I will post the citations for all to view shortly

He also got a Red Star 528084 and an OPW II 336795

Dat

***Art*** · 09-07-2007, 04:51 AM

Beautiful award Dat, congratulations!

Auke · 09-07-2007, 09:04 AM

I hope you submitted the correct S/N for research ;)

1288 S.P. is probably 1288th Rifle Regiment (1288 Strelkovy Polk).

EricFG · 10-07-2007, 07:17 AM

I found this today on a Czech(?) auction site while searching google to translate a phrase I found on a badge on US eBay.
Numbered 103991 (?)

I like this.

03-08-2007, 12:49 PM	#222
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09-07-2007, 04:51 AM	#228
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08-16-2007, 06:57 PM	#226
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,342	I'm not so sure in this case the "D" stands for "Dublikat". Since it is upside down, it more resembles a maker's mark - a quality control stamp from a mint worker. As to the s/n - good question. The "/" could be a "1" done by a different hand, or by the same guy that got distracted or lazy. Another possibility, though very remote is this award was the recipient's sixth awarding and this was a way to indicate it. However the mint engraver probably wouldn't know this unless it was something like a Victory Parade or some other kind of special awarding. My best guess is that it is actually 112.716 and maybe the engraver ran out of room on the final "1" to put in the lead "tail" event on the first two "1"s.

09-07-2007, 09:04 AM	#229
Auke Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 762	I hope you submitted the correct S/N for research ;) 1288 S.P. is probably 1288th Rifle Regiment (1288 Strelkovy Polk).

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