Identify the cap? - Page 3

Ser-g · 06-11-2009, 09:13 AM

about the chinstrap , it sure sounds like the wrong buttons.

about the chinstrap it self, isn't it so that general parade caps had the leather embroidered on from at least 1955 and on.
the chinstrap on it now is the officer or general normal wear one.

DougD · 06-11-2009, 09:22 AM

Ser-g,

Yes, you are correct...looks like the chin strap and buttons were both replaced! Too bad, its a nice cap!

DougD

Tretov · 06-11-2009, 09:22 AM

Here is a cap of the same model that I had in my collection earlier. Notice the chinstrap and the side buttons - as well as the magenta color.

For the record, this cap was "lost" in French post/customs.

While the buttons may be possible to find, I am afraid that the only way to get a chinstrap is to slaughter another cap :(

Snameni · 06-11-2009, 10:58 AM

Marc, DougD and Tretor :)
Thank you very much for your information. Even my field is not the hats ( I collect mostly orders-medals-edgged weapons and patches-badges from Special Forces and Paras) I believe the buttons have been replaced, because they look like the sleeve buttons from a Greatcoat and they are gold plated aluminium. Those buttons are attached to the hat with white thread and you can see next to the white thread are still black shred threads (as some body had relocate the buttons in one stage).
Thank you very much for the information about the Chin-strap!!!!:thumbsup
The colour of the band and the piping is acually magenta and not red.
About the date now, I had to remove one of those but the stamp is not the perfect one and it is very hard to see any dates or letters. Just look at the picture
Buttons.jpg
I apologize for the up-side-down hammer and sickle, I had no other choise and the picture has to be done as it is. The date looks like 63 or 83, really it is very hard to say. I tryied to have a "go" putting a light on a different angles, but it was pointless.

Thank you VERY MUCH!!!!:)

Snameni · 06-11-2009, 11:03 AM

I'm so sorry :(
I forgot Ser-g
I was just very excited with all those information!!!!!:thumbsup
Sorry mate!!!:(

Yannis

Tretov · 06-11-2009, 11:29 AM

Yannis/Snameni,

the buttons are wrong for the cap, and so is the chinstrap (as stated before). The correct ones should have the state seal of USSR. Either the correct chinstrap was lost and replaced with whatever was on hand - or someone saw an opportunity to make 10 bucks extra and changed the band+buttons - and sold separately.

Esteban_cool · 06-11-2009, 11:59 AM

It´ll be pretty hard to find a proper chinstrap for your cap, and if you don´t find one, just leave as it is. It looks nice after all. You may be more lucky with the buttons though. They show up more often than chinstrap.

Cheers:)

Jeffrey Meffert · 06-11-2009, 03:53 PM

Nice hat.
And really nice camera work. I love how you worked the insets of the closeups

Snameni · 06-11-2009, 07:52 PM

Thank you very much for your information!!!!

I agree with Esteban cool, the hat looks nice even has incorrect chinstarp and buttons and I will leave it "in peace" at this stage. Maybe it is very hard to find correct chinstrap and buttons, but this is the beauty of collecting. You never know what you will find the next day!!!!!
Thanks Jeffrey for your compliments!!! I use one old Sony 717 (is my favorite one) with a Giottos SuperMacro Lens and one Sony HVL-RLAM ring light. I just bought one Sony A 300, but I haven't use it yet!!!! The actuall size of the button is 18.50 cm (on the picture, using the SuperMacro Lens ). After taking the photos I have a play with the Photoshop, A GREAT PROGRAM!!!!
If some body wants any help about Photoshop, please free to ask me!!!!!

All the very best!!!!
Yannis

06-11-2009, 09:13 AM	#21
Ser-g Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Haarlem The Netherlands Age: 38 Posts: 374	Re: Identify the cap? about the chinstrap , it sure sounds like the wrong buttons. about the chinstrap it self, isn't it so that general parade caps had the leather embroidered on from at least 1955 and on. the chinstrap on it now is the officer or general normal wear one.

06-11-2009, 09:22 AM	#22
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 51 Posts: 2,060	Re: Identify the cap? Ser-g, Yes, you are correct...looks like the chin strap and buttons were both replaced! Too bad, its a nice cap! DougD

06-11-2009, 10:58 AM	#24
Snameni New Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Down Under, Perth Posts: 11	Re: Identify the cap? Marc, DougD and Tretor :) Thank you very much for your information. Even my field is not the hats ( I collect mostly orders-medals-edgged weapons and patches-badges from Special Forces and Paras) I believe the buttons have been replaced, because they look like the sleeve buttons from a Greatcoat and they are gold plated aluminium. Those buttons are attached to the hat with white thread and you can see next to the white thread are still black shred threads (as some body had relocate the buttons in one stage). Thank you very much for the information about the Chin-strap!!!!:thumbsup The colour of the band and the piping is acually magenta and not red. About the date now, I had to remove one of those but the stamp is not the perfect one and it is very hard to see any dates or letters. Just look at the picture Buttons.jpg I apologize for the up-side-down hammer and sickle, I had no other choise and the picture has to be done as it is. The date looks like 63 or 83, really it is very hard to say. I tryied to have a "go" putting a light on a different angles, but it was pointless. Thank you VERY MUCH!!!!:)

06-11-2009, 11:03 AM	#25
Snameni New Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Down Under, Perth Posts: 11	Re: Identify the cap? I'm so sorry :( I forgot Ser-g I was just very excited with all those information!!!!!:thumbsup Sorry mate!!!:( Yannis

06-11-2009, 11:29 AM	#26
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Re: Identify the cap? Yannis/Snameni, the buttons are wrong for the cap, and so is the chinstrap (as stated before). The correct ones should have the state seal of USSR. Either the correct chinstrap was lost and replaced with whatever was on hand - or someone saw an opportunity to make 10 bucks extra and changed the band+buttons - and sold separately.

06-11-2009, 11:59 AM	#27
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Re: Identify the cap? It´ll be pretty hard to find a proper chinstrap for your cap, and if you don´t find one, just leave as it is. It looks nice after all. You may be more lucky with the buttons though. They show up more often than chinstrap. Cheers:) __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

06-11-2009, 03:53 PM	#28
Jeffrey Meffert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 68 Posts: 640	Re: Identify the cap? Nice hat. And really nice camera work. I love how you worked the insets of the closeups

06-11-2009, 07:52 PM	#29
Snameni New Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Down Under, Perth Posts: 11	Re: Identify the cap? Thank you very much for your information!!!! I agree with Esteban cool, the hat looks nice even has incorrect chinstarp and buttons and I will leave it "in peace" at this stage. Maybe it is very hard to find correct chinstrap and buttons, but this is the beauty of collecting. You never know what you will find the next day!!!!! Thanks Jeffrey for your compliments!!! I use one old Sony 717 (is my favorite one) with a Giottos SuperMacro Lens and one Sony HVL-RLAM ring light. I just bought one Sony A 300, but I haven't use it yet!!!! The actuall size of the button is 18.50 cm (on the picture, using the SuperMacro Lens ). After taking the photos I have a play with the Photoshop, A GREAT PROGRAM!!!! If some body wants any help about Photoshop, please free to ask me!!!!! All the very best!!!! Yannis

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